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Re: How many associates work directly for a soldier?
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I doubt anyone has made statistics of that...
In other words, you'll just have examples with different numbers.
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Re: How many associates work directly for a soldier?
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Depends Demeo was a de facto capo first of be made,some soldiers have 2-3 associates under him.
I don't understand why the genovese and the gambino has 200 made men and 1000 associate same think for the luccheses but for the bonannos 1:3 - 1:4 for the colombos very very few associates.
And why philly is listed 2 associates for 1 wiseguy and the Patriarcas 1:3 ?
Who decides the relationship between made men and associates?
The FBi,the police ecc ? who ? The law enforcement estimated ratio is the same for all the NY families. The latest I've seen being 1:5. So, for the Genovese and Gambinos, who have 200 members each, 1,000 associates for each is the estimate. The three smaller NY families, with around 100 members each, 500 associates each is the estimate. The last Chicago estimates, which were during the Family Secrets case, was 28 members (25-30 was the general range) and a little over 100 associates. So the ratio there is 1:4 or 1:5. The most recent associate estimates I've seen for New England and Philadelphia was 100 associates. So, with 40-50 members each, the ratio is about 1:2. Philadelphia , for example, was once said to have nearly 300 associates. I suppose the smaller a family is, and the morest it declines, the less manpower affiliated with it. Interestingly, the last estimate I saw for the DeCavalcantes was 50 associates, which is a rather small 1:1 ratio considering the family is said to have 40-50 members. Again, I take associates estimates with a grain of salt because they can vary and fluctuate even among law enforcement l.
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Re: How many associates work directly for a soldier?
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Depends Demeo was a de facto capo first of be made,some soldiers have 2-3 associates under him.
I don't understand why the genovese and the gambino has 200 made men and 1000 associate same think for the luccheses but for the bonannos 1:3 - 1:4 for the colombos very very few associates.
And why philly is listed 2 associates for 1 wiseguy and the Patriarcas 1:3 ?
Who decides the relationship between made men and associates?
The FBi,the police ecc ? who ? The law enforcement estimated ratio is the same for all the NY families. The latest I've seen being 1:5. So, for the Genovese and Gambinos, who have 200 members each, 1,000 associates for each is the estimate. The three smaller NY families, with around 100 members each, 500 associates each is the estimate. The last Chicago estimates, which were during the Family Secrets case, was 28 members (25-30 was the general range) and a little over 100 associates. So the ratio there is 1:4 or 1:5. The most recent associate estimates I've seen for New England and Philadelphia was 100 associates. So, with 40-50 members each, the ratio is about 1:2. Philadelphia , for example, was once said to have nearly 300 associates. I suppose the smaller a family is, and the morest it declines, the less manpower affiliated with it. Interestingly, the last estimate I saw for the DeCavalcantes was 50 associates, which is a rather small 1:1 ratio considering the family is said to have 40-50 members. Again, I take associates estimates with a grain of salt because they can vary and fluctuate even among law enforcement l. You have to factor in how many of those made men are behind bars or retired. A lot of the old guard is still alive but not active. For example the Stanfa/Scrafo guys in Philly. A lot of those guys are doing life. I imagine the NE family had a lot of older inactive guys.
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Re: How many associates work directly for a soldier?
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Depends Demeo was a de facto capo first of be made,some soldiers have 2-3 associates under him.
I don't understand why the genovese and the gambino has 200 made men and 1000 associate same think for the luccheses but for the bonannos 1:3 - 1:4 for the colombos very very few associates.
And why philly is listed 2 associates for 1 wiseguy and the Patriarcas 1:3 ?
Who decides the relationship between made men and associates?
The FBi,the police ecc ? who ? The law enforcement estimated ratio is the same for all the NY families. The latest I've seen being 1:5. So, for the Genovese and Gambinos, who have 200 members each, 1,000 associates for each is the estimate. The three smaller NY families, with around 100 members each, 500 associates each is the estimate. The last Chicago estimates, which were during the Family Secrets case, was 28 members (25-30 was the general range) and a little over 100 associates. So the ratio there is 1:4 or 1:5. The most recent associate estimates I've seen for New England and Philadelphia was 100 associates. So, with 40-50 members each, the ratio is about 1:2. Philadelphia , for example, was once said to have nearly 300 associates. I suppose the smaller a family is, and the morest it declines, the less manpower affiliated with it. Interestingly, the last estimate I saw for the DeCavalcantes was 50 associates, which is a rather small 1:1 ratio considering the family is said to have 40-50 members. Again, I take associates estimates with a grain of salt because they can vary and fluctuate even among law enforcement l. Exactly. There can (or could be) a few that have long standing ties to that person who have demonstrated their loyalty only to get slowly bled-out financially over their entire lifetime, or the alternative, the ones who get wiped out from the start and shoved aside. Not to say there is no middle area but for the most part it is an alternating fucked up game of musical chairs. Really no way to tell.
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Re: How many associates work directly for a soldier?
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09/18/15 10:19 AM
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In regards to Lefty Ruggerio actually, we never read about any associates other Donnie Brasco and his fellow undercover cops, but Lefty was a bookie so shouldn't he have a few guys working for him at least? I remember seeing a chart about a bookmaking bust in Staten Island a few years back and there were two Gambino soldiers arrested along with about 15-20 associates with them, so wouldn't Lefty have some agents and collectors working for him etc.? Here is the chart Im talking about http://media.silive.com/latest_news/other/Grand%20Jury%20Charts.pdf
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