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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
[Re: NE1020]
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08/16/15 12:15 AM
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I hate those morons, read the LA times homicide blog that is some sad stuff. I think they often use the slow thinkers to do a lot of dirty mean stuff. how you going to kill a kid because he is wearing red shoestrings in front of his mother,but doing nothing about the Mexicans trying to run black grandmothers out of their homes in Compton at gunpoint. The feds should on that crap and where is LAPD? out making black kids going to their prom get on their bellies in their prom clothes somewhere.i was in the air force with a guy from LA and he hated the cops, i asked why and he told me they did that crap every year to those kids
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/16/15 12:32 AM
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i've never met a real crip or blood for that matter so i don't know. i've met people who claim mob one day and the next day are claiming some other shit a couple days later depending on where we are. same with crips out here bunch of fake i hear crips in jail are the types that suck d--- up here(in ohio). i've met some real stand up latin kings which they're extremely organized. i can tell you something about how crips and blood sets ive met up here they're extremely fake and latin king is the gang that is extremely organized. although they seem to have a snitching problem up here.
ma tongue hold life my belt hold death. make em bite the dust when they hit the floor. 4-5 to there chest us folk from gangsterbb aint playing. we smoke everyone in this b word like a hookah now. stupid steve hit the corner shooting.
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/16/15 03:58 AM
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Real or fake is broad with bloods and crips. They use the main lines of both the gangs but create subtitles for their own cliques. How "real" they are really depends on how capable their leadership is. Plenty of sects of those gangs thrive with a great criminal mind on top as their OG. After bust though usually the gang just dies out with large numbers doing petty crimes .
You have some sects making real money when the indictments are down. Also the same gangs with the same names getting busted for worthless crimes that Barely bring cash.
The titles are soley for recruitment .
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/17/15 02:41 PM
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@NE1020 Under the Crips: East Coast, Rollin 60s, 83 Gangster Crips, Grape St Crips, & Bloods: Black P. Stone, Rollin 20s, Bounty Hunters, and Pueblo Bishops. If we're speaking collectively ( all lines/cliques) then these are the current sets that equals or outnumber any NYC family currently. I forgot some others but off the top of my mine is the above listing. In to counterbalance , there are some sets that only have 50-90 members and yet are still active.
@Dave123,
I thought so too but it's the East Coast Crips with 2,200 members. I read that from a court case with a officer stating an overview of the gang in his division.
If you think you are too small to make a difference, you haven't spend the night with a mosquito. - African Proverb
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/19/15 12:49 AM
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Here's a link reprinted from a GQ article I read several years ago: http://longform.org/stories/the-inside-man
"The Feds are a business Anthony, millions of tax dollars are invested in watching your ass, sooner or later, just like you, their gonna want a return on their investment." --- Neil Mink, Tony Soprano's lawyer
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/19/15 07:22 PM
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Always been somewhat confused about this, each gang has seperate "sets" but no actual hierachery or organization. You read about some sets, such as the Rollin' 60's who have about 1600 members, which seems far too powerful and you never read about one such person being head of that set. If there is no hierachery offering protection to its members and each set has different factions within it that no have no contact with one another, whats the point of being in the gang if there are no clear benefits? they are called 'hoods because in LA the gangs are essentially just nicknames for the neighborhoods that they live in. so the 60's is a nickname for the territory of the 60th streets. their rivals, 8 Tray is just slang for 83rd street,etc. So it's hard to prove or denote membership. Anyone that lives in a neighborhood with a slang name, or nickname, could be considered a member. so in that sense, in LA people are born into the gangs. let's say you were born and raised on 60th street in south central LA, well then you are from rollin' 60s, by virtue of where you live. it's not as regimented or organized as the news media or Hollywood would have you believe. now, with that said,there are distinctions between people "from" a hood, and the "hardcore" members,but the hardcore are always the small minority,sometimes as few as 1 or 2 people per neighborhood.
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/20/15 10:48 AM
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The bloods and crips have maintained a monopoly on the PCP business for a long time along with other west coast gangs. I think although demographic shifts effect them they still are major players in the drug business and other scams. recent conviction of a 8 trey gang leader in spokane washington. Gang Leader Sentenced to 50 Years for Prescription Drug Trafficking JUL 10 (SPOKANE, Wash.) – Arvin Terrill Carmen, 39, of Los Angeles, California, and Spokane, Washington, was sentenced to 50 years in prison following a five-week jury trial. Carmen was found guilty of engaging in a continuing criminal enterprise, conspiracy to distribute oxycodone, and possession with intent to distribute oxycodone. In addition, Carmen was ordered to serve a life-term of court supervision following his release from federal prison and to pay a $50,000 fine. Carmen has been in custody since his arrest on February 28, 2013.
“It is clear that this organized criminal group contributed to the oxycodone and heroin epidemic in the Pacific NW. This lengthy sentence sends a clear message and should serve as a warning to all drug traffickers,” said DEA Acting Special Agent in Charge Douglas James. “I would like to commend the outstanding contributions by all investigative agencies who worked tirelessly on this case.”
Evidence presented during court proceedings showed that Carmen initiated a drug-trafficking scheme that involved dozens of other members and associates of the Eight Trey Gangster Crips, a street gang headquartered in Los Angeles County that operated this criminal enterprise between Los Angeles and Spokane. Carmen and others illegally obtained large quantities oxycodone prescription pills in Los Angeles and utilized female couriers to transport the pills to Spokane for distribution on the street.
At the onset of the investigation, the drug trafficking group acquired 80 mg. OxyContin pills for approximately $40 or less in Los Angeles and sold them for approximately $80 each in Spokane. When the manufacturers modified the structure of the 80 mg. pills to discourage illegal diversion and abuse, the price per pill rose to approximately $125 each in Spokane. When the 80 mg. pills became scarce, the group acquired 30 mg. Oxycodone pills in Los Angeles for approximately $10-$12 per pill. The group then sold the pills in Spokane, for approximately $20-$22 per pill. The cash proceeds from Spokane-area sales, often in excess of $100,000 per shipment, were transported back to Los Angeles, and hidden in the checked baggage of female couriers. Based on the investigation, investigators initially estimated that possibly as much as 10,000 illegal OxyContin pills were transported to, and distributed in, Spokane every week for years.
In total, 62 co-conspirators, nearly all with gang affiliations, were charged in an Indictment handed down by a grand jury in January, 2013. Approximately 50 search warrants were simultaneously executed in Los Angeles, Spokane, and Seattle, resulting in the seizure of supplies of oxycodone-based pills, numerous firearms, and cash. Fifty-one co-conspirators have pleaded guilty.
This investigation and prosecution case is part of the Federal Organized Crime Drug Enforcement Task Force Program (OCDETF). The investigation was conducted by the Drug Enforcement Administration, the Spokane Regional Drug Task Force, and the Los Angeles Police Department, 77th Precinct.
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/20/15 06:15 PM
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First post from a long time lurker.
I grew up here around gangs all my life.
Black gangs in SoCal rarely, if ever have an official leader. There's not going to be a boss or anything quite equivalent to a LCN boss.
There will, however , be certain members within the set that hold more "clout." That other members respect as unofficial leaders. I think it's natural that within any group of men there will be the alpha males rising to the top.
One thing I started to realize when I was younger was the difference in mentality between the Chicano gang members and the Blacks. Chicano gangs as well as Whites were a bit more likely to accept official hierarchies than Blacks. From speaking with Black gang members, many of them will tell you how they take pride in not following orders from anyone directly. They have more of an issue with authority. Even though being from a gang has rules no matter what, Black gang rules both on the streets and in prison are much more loose. Whereas Chicanos and Whites have strict gang rules and take pride in that while looking down at Blacks as being unorganized and primitive. Blacks in turn see the Chicanos as being weak as individuals in the sense that they're willing to follow orders from some higher up. I'm only speaking SoCal though as I've heard/read different about other places.
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/20/15 07:49 PM
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they are called 'hoods because in LA the gangs are essentially just nicknames for the neighborhoods that they live in. so the 60's is a nickname for the territory of the 60th streets. their rivals, 8 Tray is just slang for 83rd street,etc. So it's hard to prove or denote membership. Anyone that lives in a neighborhood with a slang name, or nickname, could be considered a member. so in that sense, in LA people are born into the gangs. let's say you were born and raised on 60th street in south central LA, well then you are from rollin' 60s, by virtue of where you live. it's not as regimented or organized as the news media or Hollywood would have you believe. now, with that said,there are distinctions between people "from" a hood, and the "hardcore" members,but the hardcore are always the small minority,sometimes as few as 1 or 2 people per neighborhood.
I agree to an extent. But living and growing up Ina certain hood, i.e. 60's, doesn't automatically make you a member of the Rollin Sixties. Unless maybe you were born into through deep family ties,like your father or your mother,brothers and cousins are all from the hood and they raise you from birth to be from it. Gangs are traditional and generational but you'll find that many kids grow up in notorious gang neighborhoods that are completely unaffiliated, especially nowadays. Gangs will always be ingrained in LA/ Southern California but it isn't anything like it used to be.
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/21/15 04:38 AM
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One thing I started to realize when I was younger was the difference in mentality between the Chicano gang members and the Blacks. Chicano gangs as well as Whites were a bit more likely to accept official hierarchies than Blacks. From speaking with Black gang members, many of them will tell you how they take pride in not following orders from anyone directly. They have more of an issue with authority. Even though being from a gang has rules no matter what, Black gang rules both on the streets and in prison are much more loose. Whereas Chicanos and Whites have strict gang rules and take pride in that while looking down at Blacks as being unorganized and primitive. Blacks in turn see the Chicanos as being weak as individuals in the sense that they're willing to follow orders from some higher up. I'm only speaking SoCal though as I've heard/read different about other places.
Interesting. Its similar to what freeway rick ross said about his experiences in prison in this interview. [video:youtube] https://youtu.be/xrokx2Bmk_U?t=25m5s[/video]
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Re: How are the Crips and Bloods organized?
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08/21/15 11:53 AM
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Chicanos are more organized due to the influence of the Mexican Mafia. Otherwise, I doubt they'd be as organized as they are. The shot callers, lieutenants, tax collectors and whatnot. True. Before the Eme started the tax collecting program in the early 1990s, Chicano gangs were more similar to Blacks on the streets. The 1970s was a pretty wild time for Chicano gangs, but it was all traditional gang banging. It was about warring with rival gangs just for pride and to get the name of the gang heard of. It was about trying to get a feared and respected reputation. Some members acting as an individual sold drugs because herion was already a big deal then but they did so on their own and not necessarily as an organized criminal gang, same goes for robberies or any other crimes that involved making money. Now a lot is different. You don't see a bunch of gang bangers hanging out at the park wearing obvious gang clothes and being visible as much anymore. It happens but it's rare. Gang culture has even gone more underground in some So Cal cities. Especially with Chicano gangs. On the other hand, Mexican Mafia was all made up of Chicano Gang members in the first place so in a way it was just a natural progression.
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