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Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: CabriniGreen] #858252
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Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: CabriniGreen] #858253
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You should start at siragusas empire...

Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: CabriniGreen] #858254
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Actually I really recommend you read this book in general, it's dizzying...

Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: IvyLeague] #858272
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Originally Posted By: IvyLeague
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What I don't agree with is your theory that Detroit's control of the drug trade (which remains debatable in itself)...


There is testimony from Siragusa to the a Senate Committee that Detroit and St Louis had the largest heroin pipeline and were selling into NY, for a period of time. Not trying to start a pissing match, but what is debatable?


Do you have a link or source for this statement of his?


Yes. My post on 8/22 has a newspaper article attached reporting on Siragusa's testimony, and my post on 8/25 links to a page written by Scott B.


Best way to catch the smart ones? Get an idiot working for them.
Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: TonyG] #858300
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What I don't agree with is your theory that Detroit's control of the drug trade (which remains debatable in itself)...


There is testimony from Siragusa to the a Senate Committee that Detroit and St Louis had the largest heroin pipeline and were selling into NY, for a period of time. Not trying to start a pissing match, but what is debatable?


Do you have a link or source for this statement of his?


Yes. My post on 8/22 has a newspaper article attached reporting on Siragusa's testimony, and my post on 8/25 links to a page written by Scott B.


Thanks. I must have missed it when you posted it. If what Siragusa said was indeed true (they were the chief source of drugs for narcotics peddlers), that's certainly interesting and I stand corrected. However, I still don't see any evidence that this significantly affected the relative power between the NY families. And do we know how long this specific drug ring was in operation?


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Re: Who was the King Of Dope? Bonnano-Luchesse-Genoves [Re: CabriniGreen] #858387
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It's more of a theory than anything, bases off of stuff I've read, trying to make sense of the motivations of the people involved;
Without all that dope money, LUchesse never gets to compete with COstello on the political scene for one; I read that Costello went to the commission to hit Coppola, in like 49 -50' probably thinking, who's this goddamn capo from Detroit ,to be giving me, the head of the strongest family in New York, any kind of shit, right? Seems logical, but imagine how the vote probably went; LUchesse- well, no, he supplies all our dope. Profaci- no, Detroit is my ally, I got two daughter married into that borgata, and Frankie is a key guy, so no. BOnnanno- I'm with don profaci. Magaddino- I'm with my cousin. MAngano- probably goes along with profaci and Bonnano. ST Louis didn't have a vote, but probably raised a stink, Corolla from NO was partners with Coppola, so he probably objects too.
Now imagine you are COstello seeing this, Lucky is away, Albert is only an under, and Vito just got back.
I can see this incident maybe convincing frank that he need more allies on the commission, maybe a catalyst for Mangano brothers getting taken out in 51. Like see the timeline?
Lucky didn't fear PRofaci, yet Luchesse and GAmbino seemed intent upon breaking up the PRofaci, BOnnano, Zerilli alliance, it had to have something to do with the dope, and also the votes on the commission... Thoughts?

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