Also Serp, on a side note, I remember in Leonetti's book he mentioned that Scarfo taught Chuckie the life and brought I'm up through it as he was a bit younger than Scarfo. The reason I mention this is because I think it's sort of significant in that if Chuckie's father was in the life then why wouldn't he have learned all about LcN from him instead of Scarfo and furthermore one would think that he would be more around and under his father as opposed to predominately being mentored by Nicky... Just a thought...