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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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Nicodemo is pure CN from all we've heard about him. I just cant see him, coked up or not participating in some random murder. Who was Gino connected to? Who'd he come up around? Remember the old Scarfo adage of sending a message and just leaving a body in the street, especially when it came to informants? Shit is weird as hell, but still seems a bit plausible that someone wanted it to go down exactly how it did. I just don't see an explanation for leaving the murder weapon and mask in his car. If he had the ingenuity to mask up in that situation and get Grande the fuck outta dodge, he clearly wasn't that far gone. Shit is weird for sure. Tell who would stand to gain if any of that was a set up ? It would look like uncle Joe gave the order and possibly fry him while he is going to court. Skinny is the type to just throw it all away and order that hit ! Then if it was a set up (and I am not saying it was)then who stands to gain with Uncle Joe and Skinny having the finger pointed at them. We know it did not come out that way (yet) but it don't mean that none of that stupid shit did not go down. Because look at what went down..even more crazy !! I can not wrap my head around what went down that day .
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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I think they just fucked up the hit plain and simple, no master plan...we have to follow what happens to grande to find out the truth No doubt , just the strangest thing from guys that have lived that life through and through . Did Dom leave them and Nic not have a clue till the handcuffs were put on !
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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I think they just fucked up the hit plain and simple, no master plan...we have to follow what happens to grande to find out the truth No doubt , just the strangest thing from guys that have lived that life through and through . Did Dom leave them and Nic not have a clue till the handcuffs were put on ! The state never said that Nic was the shooter but he was involved and his car was used committing a felony so obviously the police know there was another shooter....i am guessing if it was a drug hit and not a CN hit or outside of philly that someone who is outside of the family will get pinched soon and probably try to tell what they know or heard aboujt the hit....the philly pd OC unit probably already know exactly what happned through informants and niccodemos actions but they have no proof on getting grande other than heresay......... one day it may come out that it was a planned out LCN sanctioned hit...... but i just think it happned liek stated above some old beef from 10th and orange and maybe some drug crap and saw the guy and popped him over there near marconi park
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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theres nothing random about having skimasks and a gun in your car in the afternoon if they used a stolen car or switched some plates probaly never got caught. also they would be in trouble with the leaders for doing this out on there own. Im sure these dudes roll alot of times with guns in their car and it was decemeber so it was cold..jk...im guessing anastasia or scott b will at sometime here if pietro was in fact some informant which would shed more light onto this.....the thing that gets me on this as stated by PMAC, is the no stolen car, plates,etc...and i thought teh police said they circled blocked 2x, so it could have been oh shit there he is lets go get him....very dumb considering the outcome...one day like to find out... DiPietro is confirmed as a informant, he wore a wire on his own cousin, even crazier, that some cousin found Jonny Gongs shot, who Dom, and Nicodemo are also suspects in that shooting.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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theres nothing random about having skimasks and a gun in your car in the afternoon if they used a stolen car or switched some plates probaly never got caught. also they would be in trouble with the leaders for doing this out on there own. Im sure these dudes roll alot of times with guns in their car and it was decemeber so it was cold..jk...im guessing anastasia or scott b will at sometime here if pietro was in fact some informant which would shed more light onto this.....the thing that gets me on this as stated by PMAC, is the no stolen car, plates,etc...and i thought teh police said they circled blocked 2x, so it could have been oh shit there he is lets go get him....very dumb considering the outcome...one day like to find out... DiPietro is confirmed as a informant, he wore a wire on his own cousin, even crazier, that some cousin found Jonny Gongs shot, who Dom, and Nicodemo are also suspects in that shooting. That would be Victor. Who is completely out of that life since he was released.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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I also heard that Ligambi/Merlino, etc were worried Gino DiPietro had info on the Gongs murder and due to him being a known cooperator and informant they felt they had to whack him. And incidentally, with regards to the theory on Merlino trying to keep Uncle Joe in the can, if Gino DiPietro did in fact have info on the gongs murder then that would have a direct affect on Tony Nics, Ligambi, and Merlino... Hmmm! On a slightly unrelated note, there was another theory/story that was even written about in a newspaper article back then that Gino's cousin Nicky who Gino informed on was talking about Gino getting whacked amongst other things in prison in the weeks and months leading up to Gino actually getting whacked.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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I also heard that Ligambi/Merlino, etc were worried Gino DiPietro had info on the Gongs murder and due to him being a known cooperator and informant they felt they had to whack him. And incidentally, with regards to the theory on Merlino trying to keep Uncle Joe in the can, if Gino DiPietro did in fact have info on the gongs murder then that would have a direct affect on Tony Nics, Ligambi, and Merlino... Hmmm! On a slightly unrelated note, there was another theory/story that was even written about in a newspaper article back then that Gino's cousin Nicky who Gino informed on was talking about Gino getting whacked amongst other things in prison in the weeks and months leading up to Gino actually getting whacked. Yearh nicky bragged to other prisoners that gino was going to get whacked when asked by press and feds he denied ever saying that. The johnny gongs hit I wonder how much involvment ligambi had with that I think that was all merlino the guy was banging joeys wife and then insulting joey in front of a group of merlino guys. Admittedly ligambi could have been involved johnny could testify about the raymond hit and he was trying to switch to the gambinioes and he was a hot head. I don't think gino knew anything about the johnny gongs hit otherwise they would all be under indictment and Joe ligambi is hardly going to order a hit while on trial where is lawyer is trying to prove the philly mafia is not violent. This if ordered or given the go ahead was done by merlino and mazzone. Still if you are right then everything is connected to the raymond hit in 2002 nicdemeo and johnny gongs were allegedly the shooters then johnny gongs was killed in 2003 then gino was killed in 2012 because of his knowledge of the johnny gongs hit all goes back to Raymond though I don't think this is how and why it went down it could be though who knows until someone flips
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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Dom and mazzone are related. By marriage. Gongs wasn't nailing skinnys wife.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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Regards the hierarchy ordering the hit? Uncle Joe was on trial for (effectively) his life. Skinny was on parole after serving 12 with the Feds ALL over him. And these guys are going to order a hit? I think its highly unlikely. Gongs was hit in 03. Is it likely they waited NINE years with Joe on trial and Skinny on parole to hit him? Again, using their own car, and leaving the piece in? Its just not logical or likely. What IS logical and likely is that this was an off the reservation spur of the moment hit. Everything else is baseless and illogical. I think skinny gave the go ahead scott said he gave the green light at his father's funeral. How exactly would SB know that? C'mon, honestly.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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Regards the hierarchy ordering the hit? Uncle Joe was on trial for (effectively) his life. Skinny was on parole after serving 12 with the Feds ALL over him. And these guys are going to order a hit? I think its highly unlikely. Gongs was hit in 03. Is it likely they waited NINE years with Joe on trial and Skinny on parole to hit him? Again, using their own car, and leaving the piece in? Its just not logical or likely. What IS logical and likely is that this was an off the reservation spur of the moment hit. Everything else is baseless and illogical. I think skinny gave the go ahead scott said he gave the green light at his father's funeral. How exactly would SB know that? C'mon, honestly. And how do you know what you're saying, Sonny? Who knows what happened. You put a little too much stock into these guys. They're not trained assassins lol.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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Regards the hierarchy ordering the hit? Uncle Joe was on trial for (effectively) his life. Skinny was on parole after serving 12 with the Feds ALL over him. And these guys are going to order a hit? I think its highly unlikely. Gongs was hit in 03. Is it likely they waited NINE years with Joe on trial and Skinny on parole to hit him? Again, using their own car, and leaving the piece in? Its just not logical or likely. What IS logical and likely is that this was an off the reservation spur of the moment hit. Everything else is baseless and illogical. I think skinny gave the go ahead scott said he gave the green light at his father's funeral. How exactly would SB know that? C'mon, honestly. Sonny I would love to think the same thing. But those two know that they would die if they did that no question period !! I will bet you we find out . There is no way that Philly is going to get away with all these murders in this day and age ,It will come out ..
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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But those two know that they would die if they did that no question period !! This doesn't necessarily lend weight to it being ordered Serp. It's as likely to mean it simply wasn't thought through, which, judging by the aforementioned indicators, still supports my narrative. And how do you know what you're saying, Sonny? I know what Im saying, because I said it Nicky.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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and Joe ligambi is hardly going to order a hit while on trial where is lawyer is trying to prove the philly mafia is not violent. This. Regards the hierarchy ordering the hit? Uncle Joe was on trial for (effectively) his life. Skinny was on parole after serving 12 with the Feds ALL over him.
And these guys are going to order a hit? I think its highly unlikely.
Gongs was hit in 03. Is it likely they waited NINE years with Joe on trial and Skinny on parole to hit him?
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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But those two know that they would die if they did that no question period !! This doesn't necessarily lend weight to it being ordered Serp. It's as likely to mean it simply wasn't thought through, which, judging by the aforementioned indicators, still supports my narrative. And how do you know what you're saying, Sonny? I know what Im saying, because I said it Nicky. What the hell is that supposed to mean?
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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and Joe ligambi is hardly going to order a hit while on trial where is lawyer is trying to prove the philly mafia is not violent. This. Regards the hierarchy ordering the hit? Uncle Joe was on trial for (effectively) his life. Skinny was on parole after serving 12 with the Feds ALL over him.
And these guys are going to order a hit? I think its highly unlikely.
Gongs was hit in 03. Is it likely they waited NINE years with Joe on trial and Skinny on parole to hit him?
And this. Exactly" Ted that's why we are brain storming to try to find a angle.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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As for using his own car with his real license plate, the only thing I can think is that they thought no one would say anything because it's South Philly. That is a defo possibility especially when they had the mask and gun prob did not think they needed the car
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