if nicodemo would have been in a stolen car or at least had stolen plates they would have gotten away with it..
least he could have done was ditch the gun. that would have helped him big time...
like serp says though.. ive thought of everything and this hit still doesn't add up in the slightest.. especially since this wasn't nicodemos first rodeo. if you've gotten away with prior hits how you going to fuck this one up so bad.. these guys are seasoned criminals.. they know the tricks of the trade. so the own car thing literally blows my mind.. and being all tuned up on coke I still don't think that could be an excuse for settingit up so stupid.

if anything the coke would make them over paranoid.. not stupid like they were eating Xanax bars.. would be crazy if nicodemo flips.. also everyone making accusations of them being on coke or meth as an excuse.. does anyone even know personally if they are drug users? I have no idea but I think its dumb that people keep throwing that out there with no proof.

Or, the obvious and most likely scenario....

They werent thinking at all. IE not planned.

But, Ive said my piece.

So reading this Gino was a rat?

If so was he an active informant or, did he already snitch on somebody?

If he was a rat do you think it could strike some fear into the Philly guys who think about flipping ?

I can't remember the exact story but I think this is how it went I could be slightly wrong he got caught dealing drugs and in return for less prison time he informed on guys including his cousin who was the same guy who in prison bragged that gino was going to get whacked and that the LCN were going to do it

And no one is doing time for any of the hits in what the last 15 years !
I am telling you it is and has been a killer city for ever !

Well till this one !!!

And that is a other thing. How is Philly doing all the hits ,and N.Y. does one and they turn the city upside down till they get a rat ?

I don't know. But I think there is a lot more violent crime in Philly generally. Pretty much all "disorganized" crime, but lots of it.

@dsbaloo - I agree... Something isn't right. Only thing I can think of is that Nicodemo was planning on ditching the gun and mask at another location away from the shooting scene shortly after stopping at home. Why he needed to stop at home first before dumping the evidence is beyond me, but he must have simply thought that he had some time and possibly made some phone calls from home to have an alibi or something like that (just trying to offer some sort of scenario to explain him going home post-hit before dumping gun and mask). That makes me wonder though why Dom didn't just drop the gun right there on the street after he popped Gino? Or even simply throw the gun and mask a couple blocks away while he was dropping Dom off or on his way back to his own house? That's what all those guys did in the past hits from Scarfo going forward. Just don't get it... Also, I agree with the idea that coke/meth wouldn't have any negative effect on them being able to successfully carry out the hit let alone simply toss the gun at the scene or somewhere close by on the way from the scene of the hit.

This had nothing to do with bad blood with 10th and Oregon. 10th street ain't real big anymore and dom still cool with some guys he grew up with. He just started hanging around the hanger ons and he did his thing and then nicodemo and al And Mike lance picked him up or whatever. He really just wanted to get made. His family goes back to coo coo Grande amoung others.

yeah I don't get why the gun was left with nicodemo in the car at all.. either the gun should have been left at the scene... or dom (if he was the shooter) should have taken it with him and disposed of it as soon as nicodemo dropped him off.. that makes so much more sense and seems so much safer than leaving it in the fucking get away car!!! good thing he didn't ditch the mask on the street... could have swabbed around the mouth and nose on the inside for dna and traced it straight back to the shooter.. but as far as the gun I full agree..its so strange it almost feels like someone literally planted the gun in the car, but highly, highly doubt that happened..
this hit just stresses me out. like I really just want to know what the fuck really happened that day..i want to hear a play by play of the whole thing.. from the reason, to the planning.. to everything.. cause its just too fucking strange

@Chicken713 - my impression was that Gino was not necessarily a confirmed/official informant but due to the fact that he only got like probation or some minuscule sentence like that after being convicted for a SECOND time for drug dealing led people to assume that was an informant as anyone getting a second drug conviction would normally receive some sort of very substantial jail time and definitely not some sort of minor slap on the wrist like what Gino got. Furthermore, apparently Gino's second drug case was sealed and never opened to the public, which basically means 9 times out of 10 that he was a cooperating in the case or was an informant for the govt. Hence why they went after him especially if they thought he had info on past mob hits (I.e. Gongs, etc) on top of him being a rat in the drug case(s) AND anything/anyone else that the govt was trying to get him to rat on (the govt was also apparently trying to get him to discuss the Gongs murder with his cousin and others while wired up or something like that). Bottom line: it's quite obvious why they hit Gino and quite frankly I think it's pretty obvious that for this same reason it was most likely not a rogue hit, but an ordered hit from the top of the hierarchy to protect everyone against potential RICO murder, however, it was clearly poorly executed and begs to ask the question that we've all been debating, which is what in the hell was Nicodemo thinking/doing in terms of actually executing the hit as well as the immediate course of events that occurred post-hit.

Yeah I can imagine that. Really they just had to get it done ASAP so everything was rushed. What really astonishes me is Nick held it down for LCN. He was apart of killing a rat whether he was the gunman or not. Took the 25 and didn't rat.

"hasn't ratted" yet....he has young kids and that beautiful wife...anyone know if there are conjugal visits where he is in prison might make the time a little better

[quote=Chicken713]Yeah I can imagine that. Really they just had to get it done ASAP so everything was rushed. What really astonishes me is Nick held it down for LCN. He was apart of killing a rat whether he was the gunman or not. Took the 25 and didn't rat. [/quote

There is more stand up guys than rats just get headlines and remember not one made guy has flipped in Philly in 15 years

Nicodemo would be going against everything he ever stood for and completely disgracing his family (in his and their eyes). He is not telling. Sorry to disappoint everyone who was sure it was a matter of time. South Philly is not like North Jersey or even NYC (although I admit I know nothing about NY). South Philly is a completely insular community where everyone knows everyone and everything that happens. He would literally rather die and prison before ratting. I know it's hard for some people to realize but there really are tough guys out there,even in 2015. They may not all be geniuses but that's irrelevant lol

It's not that hard to understand. The whole Merlino crew are all friends who came up together. These guys have held the Philly family down for 20+ years. You don't last that long without having a code amongst each other.