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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
[Re: mackinblack007]
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07/31/15 02:14 PM
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Wacked right in the middle of Uncle Joes trial, talk about bad press, was somebody trying to get rid of him? follows the pattern od the Billy Veasey murder the day his brother was set to testify(Stanfa was done after that one), The murder of Anthony Turra right in the middle of his trail, so where they trying to make Uncle Joe,or even borgayzi look bad? who knows but no boss would let that happen in the middle of his trail.
l That whole thing will make you crazy if you try to make any real sense out of it. I have tried to figure out what went down and not one scenario makes sense to me. Please someone with a good mind try to piece together that ...
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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07/31/15 02:46 PM
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PURE SPECULATION - I don't know if this was said before, but it's possible that Grande wanted to settle something from his old days with the 10th and Oregon. And Tony Nics was simply along for the ride.
As for making the boss look bad and all that: Maybe they acted on impulse without any thought; just assumed they wouldn't get caught.
Bottom Line, maybe it had zero to do with the "family"
As for punishment, Nicodemo is in jail a long time. If Grande was involved, any punishment on him would be private so it didn't attarct more LE probing
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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07/31/15 02:59 PM
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Wacked right in the middle of Uncle Joes trial, talk about bad press, was somebody trying to get rid of him? follows the pattern od the Billy Veasey murder the day his brother was set to testify(Stanfa was done after that one), The murder of Anthony Turra right in the middle of his trail, so where they trying to make Uncle Joe,or even borgayzi look bad? who knows but no boss would let that happen in the middle of his trail.
l That whole thing will make you crazy if you try to make any real sense out of it. I have tried to figure out what went down and not one scenario makes sense to me. Please someone with a good mind try to piece together that ... this is SCOTT BURNSTEIN theory of how and why it went down http://gangsterreport.com/dipietro-hit-approved-could-be-rolled-into-philly-mob-rico/i think it was okayed by steve and joey but i cant understand how it was so badly planned i mean its not like its nicdemeos first hit he was involved with the johnny cassanto and raymond muders so you would think maybes its a heat of the moment type thing but dom grande the shooter was wearing mask and was carrying a gun which makes you think maybe it was planned i really dont understand this
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
[Re: Themafia]
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07/31/15 03:17 PM
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Wacked right in the middle of Uncle Joes trial, talk about bad press, was somebody trying to get rid of him? follows the pattern od the Billy Veasey murder the day his brother was set to testify(Stanfa was done after that one), The murder of Anthony Turra right in the middle of his trail, so where they trying to make Uncle Joe,or even borgayzi look bad? who knows but no boss would let that happen in the middle of his trail.
l That whole thing will make you crazy if you try to make any real sense out of it. I have tried to figure out what went down and not one scenario makes sense to me. Please someone with a good mind try to piece together that ... this is SCOTT BURNSTEIN theory of how and why it went down http://gangsterreport.com/dipietro-hit-approved-could-be-rolled-into-philly-mob-rico/i think it was okayed by steve and joey but i cant understand how it was so badly planned i mean its not like its nicdemeos first hit he was involved with the johnny cassanto and raymond muders so you would think maybes its a heat of the moment type thing but dom grande the shooter was wearing mask and was carrying a gun which makes you think maybe it was planned i really dont understand this Read that before and still do not understand maybe dont believe that they actually sat down and planned that out....niccodemo is relatively bright guy, he owns(ed) sveral properties in the area legitimately he ran a multi million dollar book out of the borgata..... seems more like as stated above grande and niccodemo were all yaoed and up grande saw dipietro and said fuck this guy and shot him at 2 in the afternoon and then niccodemo maybe had no clue what was going down or to the extent drove away stunned, dropped grande off somwehere and police were at his house a few minutes later and if he sells out grande he sells out every single one of his friends and family that he had for life
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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07/31/15 04:17 PM
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As was mentioned above, according to Scott Bernstein's sources for what it's worth apparently Joey and Steve Mazzone both met with Nicodemo and Grande on several occasions to approve and plan the hit. Furthermore, I agree with the fact that because they had a clear get away plan (sloppy but planned nonetheless) as well as a mask and gun I don't think it was a random shooting on a whim. Also, for what it's worth, in Leonetti's book he mentions in his commentary on the current landscape of the Philly Family that he thought it was all a ploy of the Merlino faction to keep Ligambi and those guys in the can as it is consistent with their plots in the past to do the same with Stanfa (Veasey) and Turra (Turra's father). I see this as being plausible however not totally buying just because I truly feel that Ligambi was fine with stepping aside once he wasn't needed as acting boss when merlino and the others were released and back on the streets hence it wouldn't be necessary to execute a hit to ensure that Ligambi would stay in jail. Furthermore, don't you think there would be more of a rift and bad blood between Ligambi, etc and Merlino if Ligambi truly felt that Merlino & Crew were trying to keep him in the can by orchestrating this hit during his trial? When it comes down to it though this hit makes so little sense on so many different levels that nothing really seems to make sense so who knows!
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
[Re: merlino]
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07/31/15 04:27 PM
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Wacked right in the middle of Uncle Joes trial, talk about bad press, was somebody trying to get rid of him? follows the pattern od the Billy Veasey murder the day his brother was set to testify(Stanfa was done after that one), The murder of Anthony Turra right in the middle of his trail, so where they trying to make Uncle Joe,or even borgayzi look bad? who knows but no boss would let that happen in the middle of his trail.
l That whole thing will make you crazy if you try to make any real sense out of it. I have tried to figure out what went down and not one scenario makes sense to me. Please someone with a good mind try to piece together that ... this is SCOTT BURNSTEIN theory of how and why it went down http://gangsterreport.com/dipietro-hit-approved-could-be-rolled-into-philly-mob-rico/i think it was okayed by steve and joey but i cant understand how it was so badly planned i mean its not like its nicdemeos first hit he was involved with the johnny cassanto and raymond muders so you would think maybes its a heat of the moment type thing but dom grande the shooter was wearing mask and was carrying a gun which makes you think maybe it was planned i really dont understand this Read that before and still do not understand maybe dont believe that they actually sat down and planned that out....niccodemo is relatively bright guy, he owns(ed) sveral properties in the area legitimately he ran a multi million dollar book out of the borgata..... seems more like as stated above grande and niccodemo were all yaoed and up grande saw dipietro and said fuck this guy and shot him at 2 in the afternoon and then niccodemo maybe had no clue what was going down or to the extent drove away stunned, dropped grande off somwehere and police were at his house a few minutes later and if he sells out grande he sells out every single one of his friends and family that he had for life yearh you probably right i dont think the hit itself was planned but i would not be surprised if some of these guys like mazzone wanted him dead dom grande and niccodemo met with steve the night before the hit and the feds want to charge merlino and mazzone swell according to scott which makes me think it might have been okayed but if steve mazzone and maybe merlinio did give the go ahead you would think it would be planned i mean this was cowboy shit it shows no signs of planning. If this was okayed joey and steve must be very worried about this and must be very annoyed with nicdemeo and dom grande. Uncle joe must have been really pissed of i can imagine angry discussions after the trial
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
[Re: thebigfella]
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07/31/15 04:42 PM
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All merlino have to say is that he retired before he got out of prison and case closed...unless somebody snitch No doubt he did . I posted what I posted above last year(in a thread with that picture) when that photo was leaked or posted with them three in Florida. But that's all I knew ,so that could be old news and it's just reaching us ,so Scott is that his name ? could be way way off...
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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08/01/15 12:28 AM
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'Ordering' supposes planning. If it was ordered then Nicodemo and 'Grande' 'planned' to use Nicodemo's car and 'planned' to leave the murder weapon in it. Two blocks from the hit. Now, whats more likely? The above scenario or a spur of the moment hit? I think the answer is reasonably obvious.
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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08/01/15 08:29 AM
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'Ordering' supposes planning. If it was ordered then Nicodemo and 'Grande' 'planned' to use Nicodemo's car and 'planned' to leave the murder weapon in it. Two blocks from the hit. Now, whats more likely? The above scenario or a spur of the moment hit? I think the answer is reasonably obvious. So you are saying # 2 ?
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Re: The curious timing of Gino DiPietro hit
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08/01/15 10:08 AM
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Crazy Philly Sonny !
Dante brings a good point about T Nicks feeling a little too bold . But I can not see him knowing how Philly still kills the guys they want out . He and Dom know how treacherous Skinny can be.
I mean the guy that kept the seat warm, and did not let the whole thing fall apart, like it was headed when Skinny went away.Uncle Joe was hanging in the can ,and Skinny gives the go-ahead ! True I agree with that I think skinny gave the go ahead scott said he gave the green light at his father's funeral. I just think it was mucked up by these two still not sure how there planning was so bad I think like the others said that nicdemeo felt he was invincible. Still gino must have known staying in Philly was a bad idea everyone knew he was a rat
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