[quote=Spadine]Stroc i have to agree about the.jewish lighting. I know you are well aware of things to make this comment.The jews pretty much have a very strong say & presence in scrapping in cleve. even to a point to say if & who can open up. Wether they are backed bycleve guys- i dont know- but i can for sure say they didn't allow some to open & had a few closed .Carmine also dissed some friends of cleve guys & they were very unhappy.& who knows , he may have been asked for $$ to operate or expand & they could have had heat put on him . There is so much more w/ this story- drugs , all the horses he had round the country - he had a stable out @ thistledown w/ a bunch of horses. There's a bunch of people sweating for sure !




I am Gona go on a limb and say Mike pappada and his wife Both pictured in the mug lineup were the horse fixers . pappada is a trainer .

So the police probably bugged him for the scrap and stumble onto the race fixing ?








I am Gona go on a limb and say Mike pappada and his wife Both pictured in the mug lineup were the horse fixers . pappada is a trainer .

So the police probably bugged him for the scrap and stumble onto the race fixing ?