@Rockster, totally agree, whilst not ideal, its a whole lot better than the circumstances the kid has left or is currently experiencing.

And thats the reason I brought up the license, too many irresponsible people are having too many kids. If 2 gay people were to adopt, I don't see it as a really bad idea. Id prefer to explore ways to reduce the kids in care in the first instance though. I am totally against gay people using a surrogate parent, thats entirely different, unnatural at every level.

@ Ivy, you're right, it is the typical argument and it does set the bar low...but so what? It still gives the child a better chance in life surely