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The Holiday House-Pittsburgh Mob Supper Club #849620
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For anybody outside the Pittsburgh/Youngstown/Cleveland area, this place was the Copacabana of Pittsburgh. Many memories, the Rat Pack, Tony Bennett, Connie Francis etc all performed here. If anybody has any experiences there, please share on this thread.

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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


My parents just went to see her a few years ago in Pittsburgh...I could still see my Nonna in her mapine singing Mama in Italian...the good ole days


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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


My parents just went to see her a few years ago in Pittsburgh...I could still see my Nonna in her mapine singing Mama in Italian...the good ole days

This song will be immediately recognizable to "Goodfellas" fans, even though they blew it and left it off the soundtrack. It's playing during the introductions scene at the Bamboo Lounge (Jimmy Two Times, Pete the Killer, et al.).

In the film they used they used the original version, recorded by Mina (the Italian Streisand), for "La Dolce Vita." But I'm posting Connie's version. And even if you don't speak Italian, it will move you. And like I said, you'll remember it from the Bamboo scene in "Goodfellas."

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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


My parents just went to see her a few years ago in Pittsburgh...I could still see my Nonna in her mapine singing Mama in Italian...the good ole days

This song will be immediately recognizable to "Goodfellas" fans, even though they blew it and left it off the soundtrack. It's playing during the introductions scene at the Bamboo Lounge (Jimmy Two Times, Pete the Killer, et al.).

In the film they used they used the original version, recorded by Mina (the Italian Streisand), for "La Dolce Vita." But I'm posting Connie's version. And even if you don't speak Italian, it will move you. And like I said, you'll remember it from the Bamboo scene in "Goodfellas."

Il Cielo In Una Stanza



True memories


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


im older than P.B. and Oscar. i can tell you between 1958 and 1964 you couldnt turn on the t.v. and not see connie francis. she was on every variety show plus american bandstand. she was truly great. today she would earn a billion dollars.

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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


im older than P.B. and Oscar. i can tell you between 1958 and 1964 you couldnt turn on the t.v. and not see connie francis. she was on every variety show plus american bandstand. she was truly great. today she would earn a billion dollars.

I'm almost 56, Faffy. Anyway, as it stands, Connie outsold every female performer in the world from roughly '58 through '64. By today's standards, yeah, she'd be worth 500 million easy.


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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


im older than P.B. and Oscar. i can tell you between 1958 and 1964 you couldnt turn on the t.v. and not see connie francis. she was on every variety show plus american bandstand. she was truly great. today she would earn a billion dollars.


Although I'm only 38, I still remember sleeping at my grandparents house every Saturday night. 7pm was Lawrence Welk and then Connie Francis and Dean Martin records until midnight.


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Poor Connie Francis. She was a Goddess in my house when I was a kid. Her picture was right in between Pope Paul's and Sinatra's. And I'm not even kidding lol.


im older than P.B. and Oscar. i can tell you between 1958 and 1964 you couldnt turn on the t.v. and not see connie francis. she was on every variety show plus american bandstand. she was truly great. today she would earn a billion dollars.

I'm almost 56, Faffy. Anyway, as it stands, Connie outsold every female performer in the world from roughly '58 through '64. By today's standards, yeah, she'd be worth 500 million easy.


im 63 this year. her father was a tough old sicilian. kept a close eye, and tight rein on her.

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im 63 this year. her father was a tough old sicilian. kept a close eye, and tight rein on her.

Held her back. Should've let her marry Bobby Darin. He was doomed to die young anyway, but her life would have been a lot happier.


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im 63 this year. her father was a tough old sicilian. kept a close eye, and tight rein on her.

Held her back. Should've let her marry Bobby Darin. He was doomed to die young anyway, but her life would have been a lot happier.


yep, very tight rein. not sure if darin and her would have worked. that marriage may have curtailed her career.

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im 63 this year. her father was a tough old sicilian. kept a close eye, and tight rein on her.

Held her back. Should've let her marry Bobby Darin. He was doomed to die young anyway, but her life would have been a lot happier.


yep, very tight rein. not sure if darin and her would have worked. that marriage may have curtailed her career.


You guys see the movie Beyond the Sea?


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not sure if darin and her would have worked. that marriage may have curtailed her career.

Probably not. You know, Hollywood and all. But I'm talking short term, she would have been a little happy, which was something that alluded her most of her life (happiness). And in her autobiography and in a Youtube interview as recently as 2011 or 2012, she called not marrying Darin the biggest mistake of here life.

Of course, after all that, her brother got murdered for being a rat, she had a terrible pill problem, and the big one, being raped and tied to a chair like an animal, ruined her for years. More than likely forever. Success aside, she didn't have a charmed life.

Tremendous talent, sad story.


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yes i saw it. thought it to be kinda "campy" , not realistic enuf. darin's life was a great story line, dont think the movie was serious enuf.

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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not sure if darin and her would have worked. that marriage may have curtailed her career.

Probably not. You know, Hollywood and all. But I'm talking short term, she would have been a little happy, which was something that alluded her most of her life (happiness). And in her autobiography and in a Youtube interview as recently as 2011 or 2012, she called not marrying Darin the biggest mistake of here life.

Of course, after all that, her brother got murdered for being a rat, she had a terrible pill problem, and the big one, being raped and tied to a chair like an animal, ruined her for years. More than likely forever. Success aside, she didn't have a charmed life.

Tremendous talent, sad story.


Judy Gardner was another tortured soul.


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not sure if darin and her would have worked. that marriage may have curtailed her career.

Probably not. You know, Hollywood and all. But I'm talking short term, she would have been a little happy, which was something that alluded her most of her life (happiness). And in her autobiography and in a Youtube interview as recently as 2011 or 2012, she called not marrying Darin the biggest mistake of here life.

Of course, after all that, her brother got murdered for being a rat, she had a terrible pill problem, and the big one, being raped and tied to a chair like an animal, ruined her for years. More than likely forever. Success aside, she didn't have a charmed life.

Tremendous talent, sad story.


Judy Gardner was another tortured soul.


you mean judy garland

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yes i saw it. thought it to be kinda "campy" , not realistic enuf. darin's life was a great story line, dont think the movie was serious enuf.

Not to mention that Spacey was just too old to play the part. Bobby died at 37. Spacey was an "old" 44 when they filmed. So the parts when he was supposed to be in his 20's were ridiculous. He looked like Kate Bosworth's father.

But to be fair, it was Spacey's obsession with Darin that finally got that film made. He had the rights from way back in the mid-'90s when he would have been much more age appropriate.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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yes i saw it. thought it to be kinda "campy" , not realistic enuf. darin's life was a great story line, dont think the movie was serious enuf.

Not to mention that Spacey was just too old to play the part. Bobby died at 37. Spacey was an "old" 44 when they filmed. So the parts when he was supposed to be in his 20's were ridiculous. He looked like Kate Bosworth's father.

But to be fair, it was Spacey's obsession with Darin that finally got that film made. He had the rights from way back in the mid-'90s when he would have been much more age appropriate.


I still enjoyed the movie, I'm sure the book on Darin is much better.


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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
I still enjoyed the movie

So did I. It had it's charm in a campy kind of way, especially when Spacey sang "Artificial Flowers."

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I'm sure the book on Darin is much better.

There are several. David Evanier's is THE BEST, by leaps and bounds. It's called "Roman Candle."

Five Stars from PB. Read it and get back to me wink smile.


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yes i saw it. thought it to be kinda "campy" , not realistic enuf. darin's life was a great story line, dont think the movie was serious enuf.

Not to mention that Spacey was just too old to play the part. Bobby died at 37. Spacey was an "old" 44 when they filmed. So the parts when he was supposed to be in his 20's were ridiculous. He looked like Kate Bosworth's father.

But to be fair, it was Spacey's obsession with Darin that finally got that film made. He had the rights from way back in the mid-'90s when he would have been much more age appropriate.


i agree with you PB. one thing that hurt the movie was the movie "RAY" being out about the same time. it over whelmed the Darin movie.

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I still enjoyed the movie

So did I. It had it's charm in a campy kind of way, especially when Spacey sang "Artificial Flowers."

Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
I'm sure the book on Darin is much better.

There are several. David Evanier's is THE BEST, by leaps and bounds. It's called "Roman Candle."

Five Stars from PB. Read it and get back to me wink smile.


I'll order it next week, I'm halfway through a book by sports biographer Peter Golenbock called Wild, High & Tight: The Life & Death of Billy Martin. Truly the best sports biography I've ever read and I'm only halfway through.

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I still enjoyed the movie

So did I. It had it's charm in a campy kind of way, especially when Spacey sang "Artificial Flowers."

Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
I'm sure the book on Darin is much better.

There are several. David Evanier's is THE BEST, by leaps and bounds. It's called "Roman Candle."

Five Stars from PB. Read it and get back to me wink smile.


will have to check it out.

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I know you're a Yankee fan PB, the stories in this book are hilarious as well as very sad. Great insight into how those guys lived in the 1950's-1960's.


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I know you're a Yankee fan PB, the stories in this book are hilarious as well as very sad. Great insight into how those guys lived in the 1950's-1960's.

I'm a Mets fan. But I don't hate the Yanks, and I love their history, so I'll check it out. Plus, I remember Martin's funeral like yesterday. One of the biggest I've ever seen. And it's funny because I just mentioned how I ended up a Mets fan YESTERDAY:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post849371


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I know you're a Yankee fan PB, the stories in this book are hilarious as well as very sad. Great insight into how those guys lived in the 1950's-1960's.

I'm a Mets fan. But I don't hate the Yanks, and I love their history, so I'll check it out. Plus, I remember Martin's funeral like yesterday. One of the biggest I've ever seen. And it's funny because I just mentioned how I ended up a Mets fan YESTERDAY:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post849371


WTF? A Bronx guy venturing into Queens? The 69' amazin' Mets. Billy Martin IMO was the best baseball mind in history. I love his tombstone, it reads: "I may not have been the greatest Yankee to put on the uniform but I was the proudest." After reading a few other books on Billy and halfway done with this one, you'd understand how Billy couldn't function without the pinstripes.


As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
I know you're a Yankee fan PB, the stories in this book are hilarious as well as very sad. Great insight into how those guys lived in the 1950's-1960's.

I'm a Mets fan. But I don't hate the Yanks, and I love their history, so I'll check it out. Plus, I remember Martin's funeral like yesterday. One of the biggest I've ever seen. And it's funny because I just mentioned how I ended up a Mets fan YESTERDAY:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post849371


WTF? A Bronx guy venturing into Queens? The 69' amazin' Mets. Billy Martin IMO was the best baseball mind in history. I love his tombstone, it reads: "I may not have been the greatest Yankee to put on the uniform but I was the proudest." After reading a few other books on Billy and halfway done with this one, you'd understand how Billy couldn't function without the pinstripes.


billy was a great manager, no doubt. but his clutch play in world seris games gets overshadowed.

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Definitely THE place to go for any celebration,be it birthdays,anniversaries,proms,romantic dates,etc.
In 1963 my parents took me and my older sister to the HH for her 16th birthday. I believe it was either Connie Francis or Abby Lane headlining. At the age of 7 ,I could care less about "my parent's music".

As a side note,I'm sure you've heard the story about Liberace's near death experience when he suffered kidney failure from absorbing dry cleaning chemicals from his costumes into his body.
It happened backstage at the HH,on the night after the JFK killing.

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Originally Posted By: faffy444
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
I know you're a Yankee fan PB, the stories in this book are hilarious as well as very sad. Great insight into how those guys lived in the 1950's-1960's.

I'm a Mets fan. But I don't hate the Yanks, and I love their history, so I'll check it out. Plus, I remember Martin's funeral like yesterday. One of the biggest I've ever seen. And it's funny because I just mentioned how I ended up a Mets fan YESTERDAY:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post849371


WTF? A Bronx guy venturing into Queens? The 69' amazin' Mets. Billy Martin IMO was the best baseball mind in history. I love his tombstone, it reads: "I may not have been the greatest Yankee to put on the uniform but I was the proudest." After reading a few other books on Billy and halfway done with this one, you'd understand how Billy couldn't function without the pinstripes.


billy was a great manager, no doubt. but his clutch play in world seris games gets overshadowed.


You hit the nail on the head, Billy wasn't a great player, he was a scrappy, playmaker and always came through when it mattered. Best manager in my lifetime...up there with LaRussa.


As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Originally Posted By: Lou_Para
Definitely THE place to go for any celebration,be it birthdays,anniversaries,proms,romantic dates,etc.
In 1963 my parents took me and my older sister to the HH for her 16th birthday. I believe it was either Connie Francis or Abby Lane headlining. At the age of 7 ,I could care less about "my parent's music".

As a side note,I'm sure you've heard the story about Liberace's near death experience when he suffered kidney failure from absorbing dry cleaning chemicals from his costumes into his body.
It happened backstage at the HH,on the night after the JFK killing.


I did read that somewhere...

Joke:

Why was Liberace buried face down?

...So his friends could say goodbye! lol


As Uncle Charlie used to say, "Never get into pissing matches with skunks."
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Originally Posted By: Oscarthedago
Originally Posted By: Lou_Para
Definitely THE place to go for any celebration,be it birthdays,anniversaries,proms,romantic dates,etc.
In 1963 my parents took me and my older sister to the HH for her 16th birthday. I believe it was either Connie Francis or Abby Lane headlining. At the age of 7 ,I could care less about "my parent's music".

As a side note,I'm sure you've heard the story about Liberace's near death experience when he suffered kidney failure from absorbing dry cleaning chemicals from his costumes into his body.
It happened backstage at the HH,on the night after the JFK killing.


I did read that somewhere...

Joke:

Why was Liberace buried face down?

...So his friends could say goodbye! lol

Q. How do you turn a fruit into a vegetable?

A. Have a tiger drag him offstage.

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