Pizza i know you know the scores case pretty good, greg and craig lied to gotti jr about scores action, scars pulled them up on it, they were not happy with scars, he told gotti to stay away they were all going to get pinched, scars went to Tore and said these guys are in your spot ,scores, making a move.tore said they are going to get pinched if they shake them down..so you have scars and tore agreeing ..and the greed in jr, greg and craig go ahead and get everyone pinched. including tore then scars. Pizza , it is hard on these boards to speak well of guys who flip, it is was not right for them to do that no matter what..we are on the outside with a peek now and then on the inside. dom cicale you know well, i have not heard anything good ever about him ,even before he flipped and that was the important time to hear about a guy. i do not know him , so i can never give an opinion , i will lose my credibility. scars was on trial in atlanta, could have taken a deal..but stayed loyal to what gotti sr wanted.could have flipped then.. almost everyone has a breaking point..from me being an outsider, facing life ,just came off a major case , no baill , stopping all your money, then breaking you, for a power play..and who knows what he knew about other factors. the guy broke.seeing him in that show, you can see he made a huge mistake one that could never be fixed..he will suffer with his decision..i say the genius that decided to do that to a guy with so much info should have been taken to task. how many guys walking around that have a tough guy rep, are C.I. s.. probably dozens..