You developed this interest in New Zealand? It's a fair question. I'm trying to give you the benefit of the doubt.

Yes I have always found Cosa Nostra interesting. I can't get enough of the Sopranos either.

LCN is interesting to even casual people in New Zealand.

LCN news makes the national paper once in a while.

Okay, we'll see. I hope you're telling the truth. I really do.

To me, his defensive response(almost sounded rehearsed) raises a little bit of a red flag imo.

Specifically mentioning his IP, desktop, and mobile. (VERY easy to mask by the way)

It's dicknose. No doubt about it. Guy is a world class troll

/me chuckles

You all missed it, but I got it PB...

Detective Blackjack, I am not multi-accounter and besides pointing out my NZ ip's there is no other way for me to prove I'm not a multi-accounter.

And yes I am well aware ip's can be masked with VPN's,socks,hacked RDP's and user agent can be spoofed but I wouldn't go to those lengths just to troll a forum.

You know PB it must be cool to live in someone else's head like you do his, you have to be haunting him in his sleep . You know how much I voiced my opinion not to let him back on the other board.

No you wouldn't go through those lengths, took the shortcut this time

I don't understand his obsession with me. I tried to help that kid ten times. Yet he stabbed me in the back every one of those times, and he KNOWS it. He's incapable of loyalty and/or friendship, and he KNOWS it. He doesn't want friends because he doesn't know how to keep friends. So every time he comes back here and we figure it out, I'm going to report it.

I hope he goes up in November. I really do. And I've never wished prison on anyone but the worst kinds of people in my life. Well, he's among the worst. Look at his charges. But I don't want to give him his way and talk about him anymore, and I KNOW that SC and the other mods are tired of this shit. So let's give it a rest, and if he comes back we'll deal with it then.

Well, no reason to get so defensive there DN.

Especially since it isnt just me...its half the forum.

Keep checking his spelling. If he uses american english spelling instead of british english spelling then you know he's full of shit.

Good point. His vernacular has been American up until now. If he suddenly switches to words like colour as opposed to color or criticise instead of criticize, then you know something's up.

But like I said, maybe we're all getting paranoid because of that other guy. The mods have enough on their plate. If it's him, he'll give himself away. If it's not, then hey, I hope he becomes a valuable addition here.

Pride

A man that acts like a man will have a legacy forever . A stand up man will last for a long time

I thinks that's what Mikey Scars wasgetting into , his name is forever shamed and he is traumatized anout it with his family background

And IMO that is absolutely killing him and my guess he would eat it if given a do over

Does it bother him? Probably. Would he eat it cuz he feels guilty? Absolutely not.

He would do it 3 out of 3 times facing that time imo.

Dont believe for a second it is because he wasnt being "taken care of"

Everything you posted makes perfect sense, DB. But I'm stopping you here because it's all that needs to be said. You're born with it or you aren't. You understand it or you don't. Loyalty can't be taught, and neither can pride for that matter.

If you have to ask about it on a message board, then you don't get it and you never will. And if that's the case, that's fine. Just stay out of the street and lead a clean life. Because street life sure as shit ain't for the masses.

I agree. He never did any real time and he folded like a cheap fucking suit the minute he was looking at it.

Now there ARE cases where they create their own rats through greed and abusiveness. But Scars wasn't one of those cases.

Well, he landed in a position that was over his head because of Jr.

Really only had a few years but didnt have a good start as he took over Gravano's rackets while he was informing.

But, there were guys he was over that were more capable than him

But yes, Scars was definetly weak, regadless how bad he feels. A lot of these rats feel bad...look at Nicky Skins

No doubt. But they deserve to wallow in their guilt. Feeling bad is hardly enough penance for giving up guys you know all your life.

Indeed.

If you can't handle that life and the consequences that come with it, get a real job.

Part of being a "standup guy" depends on how far the higher-ups are willing to go to help you--show you that they aren't going to abandon you. Gotti got no help from anyone when he went away on a hijacking charge--his wife even went on welfare. But, after Gotti was arrested in the McBratney murder, Carlo Gambino passed the hat among his caporegimes to hire Roy Cohn, one of NYC's highest powered lawyers, to defend Gotti. He got a light sentence as a result.

I kind of like Mikey Scars, he seems like an intelligent guy. I enjoyed reading his testimony.

As far as flipping, I have a lot of conflicting thoughts. I do feel, though, that if you are a criminal you should man up and do your fucking time. I'm certain about that.

Nobody on this forum (including me) would man up and do life without parole instead of a cozy 3 years, which is what Mikey Scars got for flipping.

Scars is smart and cautious no doubt but he's not a stone cold gangster and he's not the toughest but some of these old time hoods are so cheap with a dollar ....millions and won't spend any....and Peter gotti is a moron.. I'm sure he fucked up the scars situation... He shoulda sent him a package of atleast 100k to keep his mouth shut

Loyalty's also a two way street remember.

Scars got broken down for no reason other than greed.
He got fucked. Where was his loyalty from the family?

If that hadn't happened who knows if he'dve flipped?
So scars flipping isn't all black and white, he's a pussy, etc etc.

They create their own rats through greed and stupidity quite a bit. Even the Westside was culpable for shelving Georgie Barone when he wasn't ready to go.

Take it from me, if not for that boneheaded move, that old man NEVER would have rolled. Trust me on that. And keep in mind, he gave the Westside twice as many years as Scars gave the Gambinos. Maybe three times as many.

You don't know that. We have a couple of members here who did ten year bids. And another guy from Cali who went to trial and beat a life sentence. That's honestly not a call you can make on a board with over a thousand members when you've been here for a week. Read a bit. Use the search feature. Get a feel for the board before jumping in too deep. Just some friendly advice.

Fair enough.

Other than street cred, there is no point. The future of LCN is bleak.

OK, we also aren't made guys in an LCN family. That makes a difference.