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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 11:29 AM
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and yeah F1
this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it. point by point breakdown by local media outlet that was behind the story http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/rachel-dolezal-the-story-behind-the-story/33608002This is the crux of the story...all the interviews and revelations about sexuality and other smokescreens are just to deflect from Rachel being a LIAR. Worse than her lying about who she is and her background is her crying wolf about "hate mail" and "nooses" on her property. There is a REAL ugly history in this country of race riots,terrorism, violence,lynchings,etc. These things are not to be trivialized...by ANYBODY. Her story has taken several bizarre and even comical twists and turns. On a surface, skin deep level(pun) it's a very funny story....but Rachel dishonors the generations of people who were victims of jim crow and klan fueled terror by LYING about being the target of hate crimes/intimidation.
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 02:56 PM
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I don't know, I mean on one hand as long as you are not hurting anybody then you should be free to live your life however you want (as crazy as you want).
But on the other hand I just can't help but think this whole thing just highlights this modern day mentality where if you don't like something physically about yourself then change it (and lie that you ever got it changed).
Whatever happened to learning to accept yourself the way you are?
I mean there are always going to be things about your body you don't like, but we are all going to get old anyway. We are all going to get gray hair, get wrinkled skin, etc. Physical beauty is so fleeting that it's overrated in my opinion.
Meanwhile your personality will last forever, and THAT'S what people should really focus more on improving.
Instead of spending thousands of dollars on looks which will fade anyway, maybe people should spend more time on fixing their rotten personalities which will never fad.
But I'm only 29 so you older people can feel free to jump on me if you want (EX: You'll think differently when you're older!) I just think society (and my fellow women especially) places way too much importance on how we look...when it really should be more on how we act.
As far as the woman in the article goes...I don't understand why she felt she had to lie and say she was black to be a member of the NAACP. Unless she just wanted that particular 'look', but then this is different then just dying your hair and claiming you're a blonde when you're really a brunette.
This is claiming you are a totally different race, and that is not acceptable in my opinion. You can admire a race without lying and claiming to be of that race. I personally think people of mixed race have such a beautiful skin tone, but as a white girl I'm not going to paint my skin and pretend to be something I'm not.
That's just crazy, and goes back to learning to accept yourself the way you are.
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 05:04 PM
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I think this girl is the opposite. They could make an interesting movie about her.
Black people dislike her for obvious reasons. White people dislike her for reasons not so obvious.
Did she marry a black guy and have children with him? black people ain't mad at her, she helped more blacks than she hurt don't know where you got that story from
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 05:55 PM
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I think this girl is the opposite. They could make an interesting movie about her.
Black people dislike her for obvious reasons. White people dislike her for reasons not so obvious.
Did she marry a black guy and have children with him? black people ain't mad at her, she helped more blacks than she hurt don't know where you got that story from The point is cook she lied. She lied about who she was to gain favor and receive benefits in college and in the NAACP. She also lied about being the victim of hate crimes. As a black man cook, this should be insulting to you
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 05:56 PM
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and yeah F1
this stuff came out because she alleged that her p.o. box was filled with hate mail and evidence showed that only those with keys had access to it. point by point breakdown by local media outlet that was behind the story http://www.kxly.com/news/spokane-news/rachel-dolezal-the-story-behind-the-story/33608002This is the crux of the story...all the interviews and revelations about sexuality and other smokescreens are just to deflect from Rachel being a LIAR. Worse than her lying about who she is and her background is her crying wolf about "hate mail" and "nooses" on her property. There is a REAL ugly history in this country of race riots,terrorism, violence,lynchings,etc. These things are not to be trivialized...by ANYBODY. Her story has taken several bizarre and even comical twists and turns. On a surface, skin deep level(pun) it's a very funny story....but Rachel dishonors the generations of people who were victims of jim crow and klan fueled terror by LYING about being the target of hate crimes/intimidation. Amen! Lying about racism whether it is someone falsely claiming to be black when she or he is not, or falsely claiming a crime was racially motivated when it was not, or faking a crime that never happened, all diminish real racism. Yesterday in South Carolina an atrocity happened when a 21-year-old white gunman entered an AME church and murdered nine unarmed black people in cold blood while they were involved in a Bible study. Today while watching CNN I saw two different guests make unproven comparisons, the first compared this crime to the church burnings of the 1990s and the other said that the killer was influenced by hate media, specifically naming FOX News. First, the nothing about the shooter's motivations have been released to the public, so we don't know what his specific motivations were. Since he murdered black people and he is white the motivation could have been racist, since he murdered people involved in a Bible study in a church the motivation could have been a hatred of Christianity, or it could have been a mix of both. He could also have been a paranoid schizophrenic who stopped taking his meds. So the politicians should not have prematurely asserted what the shooter's motivations were until we have all the facts. Second, I watch CNN and Fox, and occasionally MSNBC, CNBC and Fox Business, and Fox's news stories do not promote hate but are just as fair as the other stations, maybe even more so. The Fox commentary shows, like O'Reilly, Hannity, etc., are generally pro-police and reflect a more conservative point of view, but nothing that promotes hate. If anything they are anti-hate. They do criticize MSNBC just as Sharpton and Maddow on MSNBC criticize Fox. I have issues with some Fox commentators myself, but what this politician did was to slander the network. We don't have any evidence that the shooter even watched Fox. We don't know what he watched or who he listened to. Moreover, Fox commentators could be described as slightly anti-Muslim, so how does this even relate to encouraging someone to fire on a church? It makes no sense at all. It is a rush to judgment, politicizing an issue and it reflects more on the politicians making the comments than the tragedy itself. Third, if this was (again, we don't know yet) a terrorist attack by a demented individual, someone who is mentally ill and not necessarily racist, then it misdirects a possible solution by creating a false cause and focusing our attention on that. In the 1990s there was a rash of church burnings that were blamed on racism. It turned out that many of them were caused by a 13-year-old white girl who was motivated by Satanism, others by a fire fighter turned arsonist; there were a few fires committed by the KKK, but they were a significant minority. It also turned out there also a large number of white churches that were burned, but because the black churches were predominately made of wood they were easier targets. It also turned out that the historical numbers were within the norm, so there was no rash of burnings. President Bill Clinton claimed that in his youth he remembered church burnings in Arkansas. An investigation by the Arkansas Gazette showed that there weren't any. Washington Post writer James K. Glassman wondered if this was a diversionary tactic during the illegal use of FBI files scandal. At any rate, the arsons continued with many white churches being burned by practicing Satanist Jay Scott Bollinger and his stripper girlfriend Angela Wood. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/national/longterm/churches/churches.htmhttp://archive.wilsonquarterly.com/in-essence/fires-timehttp://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/691591/postshttp://www.nytimes.com/1996/06/12/us/arr...oners-pain.htmlhttp://www.nytimes.com/1999/04/21/us/man...ghter-died.htmlhttps://www.atf.gov/content/about/our-history/blast-from-the-past/historic-cases/church-arsonhttp://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2000/decemberweb-only/35.0.htmlhttp://abcnews.go.com/US/story?id=95006http://www.boogieonline.com/revolution/community/race/churches.html
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/18/15 10:18 PM
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That evidence can suggest that his rage was racially motivated. It also suggests he had mental problems and probably played violent video games. I certainly don't think he was into club penguin. The picture I'm getting is a disturbed individual who spent too much time on the wrong activities
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/19/15 01:43 PM
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@cookcounty - The problem is that she was a fraud, a liar, and possibly delusional. If she had just come clean about who she is then there wouldn't be a problem. Yes, fraud is the issue. I refer you to Johnny Otis, a major figure in R&B history. He was born to Greek immigrant parents and was relatively dark-skinned. From an early age, he chose to identify with and live among blacks, and was instrumental in discovering and recording black artists. But he never tried to deceive anyone about his race--nor did he try to assume important positions in black institutions by posing as a born African-American: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Otis
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Re: Can you be "bi-racial"?!
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06/19/15 10:43 PM
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I haven't been watching the news on this, certain "issues" I turn off when they come up. I just assumed this was being defended and praised because of this headline, though I didn't read the article, I should know that making assumptions only makes one thing out of me.
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The Dude: And, you know, he's got emotional problems, man. Walter Sobchak: You mean... beyond pacifism?
Walter Sobchak: This guy f*cking walks. I've never been so sure of anything in my entire life
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