Its the same arguments month to month here, some people take what Capeci n others writers as gospel , some also take FBI reports as the only source or lack off, while others here think its the same as it use to be back in the day.. I don't know much about outside NY and more specifically the Bronx and Harlem factions of NY families but if the reports from the FBI and indictments along with columnist tell the story at the same ratio they do in Ny i would say its some where in the Middle none of the families will ever be as strong as they were its however foolish to think they are gone and are willing to let there traditions die out with them think how long these groups have been around even if its a watered down version im sure they make efforts to make new guys and keep it going, and in a city like Detroit with the poverty and how impossible it is to police there with the limited resources its the perfect place for crimes of any nature to thrive