The Pittsburgh family had an enormous # of associates...there was a post some time ago on this site listing the made guys and associates...despite the accuracy of that list, it left off a very large # of associates. Pittsburgh, was a tightly knit and tightly run family for years and one of the reasons for their success was the small # of made guys, but at the same time using associates, particularly a core of high ranking assoc., as made guys. Many of those associates are continuing business as usual...I'm ready for your rebuttal Oscar