What sane person wouldn’t feel at least slightly skeptical at any news story involving the police?

Local news station interviewed some gang members.

Gang members: We did not make truce to harm cops

Scorsese,

thanks

Guys on camera are doing public relations, and if they really wanted to make their case , with their numbers, they would patrol the areas and prevent the outrageous acts of violence.
A smarter OG or leader would be able to use this outbreak of violence for a long con. I read about Chicago gangs masquerading as community groups during the 60s and 70s. Helping to quell riots..etc...and eventually conning their way to government grants and such.

But for now, this interview is to help take the themselves out of the cross hairs of the coming response from law enforcement.

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A spokesman for the Crips said that they were joining forces with the Bloods mainly because they felt there was only room for one gang of thugs wearing blue in Baltimore

this is real and coming to a place near yall. justice

cook?

The contact is named Fuzzy Dunlop.

updating my ignore list

Yeah, that's the confidential informant. He would be here but he had to bounce.

I cant imagine a more difficult job at the moment than being a cop in the USA....its like the wild west...people riot on a whim (when a thug gets shot) and wreck their own town...again, Ive said before MLK must be turning in his grave over how much his black brothers, sons and daughters fucked things up

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My favorite show

Thanks Pizza

I've seen instances of people, being less blatant, masquerading as new members.

We famously used this picture as code about one of these guys



cook or who over the guy is and a few other members who mysteriously are back in the fold when these riots are happening in Baltimore,are trolls.....two sides of the same troll coin actually. Sometimes, it's been so long that I forget why I added some one to the ignore list...but clicking on their most recent comment reminds me.

I wonder what % of the people who are watching the goings on in Baltimore had their views of Baltimore shaped by the Wire. That's a great show btw. Jimmy Mcnulty all day.

The troll, a true Baltimoron, is gone.

If I were the Baltimore mayor I would offer this group an opportunity to meet with police brass and church leaders and see if something positive could come out of it. I wouldn't turn down any potential opportunity for improving things. There would be no financial incentive offered. If these gangsters are going to be real as they claim, then they need to answer questions about gang involvement in heroin distribution and other factors that increase crime. If they really care as they say, then they'd do it.

@Faithful,

I agree with your comments and yet we all know they're not going to release details on their bread and butter activities in the drug trade. If they did then another crime group will just fill the void as history have shown us.

@ Gets,

Somewhat masquerading and legitimate as well. There's so much incidents that happen during those years that many on the BB just don't know about it. During the riots after Dr MLK Jr in Chicago, Black P. Stones kept the peace in their territory. Before this event you had VLs interacting and supporting MLK Jr and Lords, Stones, Disciples (LSD) coalition formed to fight the discrimination within the construction unions. As I said some time ago, Chicago gang history is in-depth like a hard cover book.

Anytime, Gets .

We don't have to agree on every political issue to treat each other with respect and even become friends (on message boards OR in real life). This guy was a troublemaking troll (who may have been White for all we know), he tried to bait you with that street nonsense, and I pointed out that you're a proud Black man and that you're too smart to be baited by an idiot like him.

I was just speaking the truth. I would have said the same for Black Family or our long absent friend Lilo, or for any considerate person, White, Black or Purple. The only time I've ever lowered myself down to that type of silliness on this board is when Cook would try to bait me over and over and over. And like a dummy, I let him get the best of me a few times. I regret it terribly, and that won't ever happen again.

Because like you correctly pointed out, it's much easier to just ignore the troublemakers and the trolls. Because if you're not careful, you'll end up lowering yourself right down to their level. That's EXACTLY what they want, and I'm not falling for it again. None of us should .

Appreciate the comments ,Pizza.

I always feel that people should speak the truth as they see it. What we're seeing in Baltimore and earlier in Ferguson with the brazen lawlessness and rioting are uncomfortable to watch and speak honestly about, but we've got to do it. If it doesn't take place on forums and message boards then honest exchange is just not going to occur anywhere. It's unprofessional to discuss certain topics in a work setting, and in real life people tend to socialize with people that they have things in common with(background,religion, outlook,politics). The political tv and radio talk shows? no..those are screaming matches that are shot like 1980s WWF wrestling promos.

Internet puts people who otherwise would have never spoken to each other, in position to exchange ideas thoughts and views. Only works if there is honesty and civility.
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This part is addressed to everybody.

@Everybody

We buried my great friend, Rich a while ago. We were about as different in personality as friends could be. Here's an example....if I walked up on Rich and he had bad breath...I'd take out a pack of gum, take a piece for myself...and then offer him one. If my breath was bad, he'd start cracking jokes loudly about what kind of dead animal died in my mouth. I'd get mad, call him a bootleg Jason Kidd(or whichever light skinned Black dude who was famous) ...BUT I would go get some chiclets*. In our own ways, we were both honest...Rich more directly honest..but he was able to do that because I knew that this guy respected and loved me like a brother.

The issue that comes up when some of these volatile topics come up on this or any board, is that sometimes people choose to address other members as if THEY are the ones on tv doing x,y, or z...or are personally responsible for a,b,c. Imagine Rich getting after me because another guy had bad breath or me offering Rich gum because a guy who looked like him had bad breath.

Hey, I'll stop here as I think I'm rambling like an old guy. I'm not "old" in terms of age but Black men have shorter lifespans so technically I'm old.

*to this day, I carry chiclets, because of Rich screaming on me one time.

Interesting take. I think a good leader (mayor) would explore every available option to stopping the violence short term and using this an opportunity for the city to rebound. I don't think the current mayor is a good leader because even before any of this stuff occurred, Baltimore was a dying city. I think any modern day mayor of a crumbling city faces challenges that cannot be eliminated by legislation BUT I got the impression from her that they gave up trying.So if things are haywire under normal circumstances, not reasonable to expect her to be a great leader during a crisis.

Cory Booker, by contrast, when he was mayor of Newark,NJ....which is another crumbling decaying city...was trying earnestly to deal with the issues in innovative ways.There was an infamous MS-13 slaying of some Black college kids in Newark that EASILY could have erupted into a race riot...and he handled it expertly. In a different story..there was an alleged gang hit planned against Booker that was written about. What did he do? He hired one of the alleged hitmen and mentored him.

Rudy Guiliani, who I've never been a fan of, was an effective leader in the city, cracked down on a lot of the street crime , and was a steady calming voice during periods of crisis....like 911. Easy to dismiss Rudy's leadership during 911 until you see mayors of smaller cities fumble with crises of much smaller scales like we've seen the past few years.....and especially now in Charm City.

From what I've read, the Chicago gang culture is more entrenched and more evolved than anywhere else even L.A. That's one of the reasons why I didn't understand the high murder rate in the Chi in the past years. You'd figure that the bootleg wannabe East coast versions of West Coast gangs would be more volatile as they are battling for dominance turf,etc.Whereas, as an outsider, it would appear that lines and territory have been CLEARLY defined in Chicago for decades.

Anyway, yeah I've read about street gangs in the Chi preventing rioting where across the country major cities were burning and what I mean by masquerading is that they are still doing illegal activities. They couldn't make the switch.

I was just showing a photo of me with bobby v to a friend on here. ironic

i doubt any brothers in bmore want to be labled as terrorist

I am from Baltimore...a number of Baltimore PD guys have said it's just the like the Wire...it's too real in some ways. Some of them even used to show the actors around the city etc.

Homicide: A Year on the Killing Streets by David Simon is a really good book about crime and police in Baltimore, pretty sure David Simon was the creator of The Wire

Look at these bad cops. When they would not stop they were attacked

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://youtu.be/jagvYIMJyzU

chicago mobs have been arrested, federally indicted and are know unorganized

most of the younger generation just make up "cliques", change handshakes, etc

chicago is so violent because......IT's RANDOM VIOLENCE ALL OVER THE NEWS

there a very few "gang" wars going on over territorial rights