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Will Vinny B. ever get out of ADX? #839112
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I'm sure this has been discussed before, but I haven't the patience to sift through so many other topics on the guy.

Does anyone know if there's any framework in place to one day get this guy out of what's a sterile version of hell on earth?

I know it's at least been discussed that he could be due for a transfer, but I can't recall if that was merely a discussion or based in some evidence.

From all accounts, he's been a model prisoner (not that you have an option at that place.) When you look at the conduct of the guys who put him away while being protected by the gov't, you've got to wondering how some of the FBI handlers sleep at night.

He'd be better off at GITMO.

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Well there's that one time he was caught red handed planning to kill a prosecutor.

And I don't know many bosses who have personally participated in hits - murdering people.

So there is that..


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No.


Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison.
I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate...
for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
Re: Will Vinny B. ever get out of ADX? [Re: Moe_Tilden] #839130
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I guess that came off wrong. I'm not saying he isn't a prime candidate for an ADX sentence. Personally, I have no investment in whether he stays there or not. I'm just unfamiliar as to whether he was originally sentenced to life there.

The place is new and it was originally used to reform inmates who were dangerous somewhere else. The expectation was to use it as a way to modify their behavior so they could be transferred somewhere else.

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Originally Posted By: SharpieOne
I guess that came off wrong. I'm not saying he isn't a prime candidate for an ADX sentence. Personally, I have no investment in whether he stays there or not. I'm just unfamiliar as to whether he was originally sentenced to life there.

The place is new and it was originally used to reform inmates who were dangerous somewhere else. The expectation was to use it as a way to modify their behavior so they could be transferred somewhere else.

He has no shot at a transfer in the foreseeable future. His family entertained the idea of suing the BOP, but thought better of it because it's pointless and they'd be throwing away money that they don't have.

And he has zero chance of ever being paroled. Zero. Take it from me. There's no hope, other than wasting money his family doesn't have on appeals they can't win anyway. Ballgame over.

I'm not saying that he doesn't belong in prison. I say it all day long. If you kill people you go to jail. But there are people convicted of much more heinous crimes doing easier time.


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Re: Will Vinny B. ever get out of ADX? [Re: pizzaboy] #839134
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Thanks for the repsonse, PB. Attorneys in DC and CO have filed class-action suits claiming prolonged solitary is cruel and unusual. Who knows if they'll be heard. Guess that's his best shot.

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Interesting topic. He's been there what 4-5 years? From everything that I have read about Florence ADX,it seems almost inhuman. It was said on here that he has a good record there of good behavior. Taking that into consideration, perhaps they could place him in a less dehumanizing prison and see how he behaves there with the understanding that if he fucks up, it's straight back to ADX where he will die of old age.

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Lets be real, the guy belongs in prison but certainly not ADX. I think he was railroaded and the plan to murder a prosecutor was hyperbole at best.

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Originally Posted By: Belmont
Lets be real, the guy belongs in prison but certainly not ADX.

That's exactly right.

I've said a thousand times that I don't sugarcoat Vinny's life and that murderers belong in jail. But he certainly doesn't belong housed in the terrorist wing with a bunch of raghead extremists. And I'm sorry if I'm being politically incorrect, but this is one instance where I just don't give a shit.

He was found guilty of two public service homicides, and they have him housed with guys who were in on 9/11. Give me a fucking break.


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Here is a list of some of the inmates and info on Florence ADX.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ADX_Florence

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Granted there are foreign & domestic terrorists there but there seems to be an eclectic mix of Italian, Latin & African American gang leaders, WASP Neo Nazis & separatists and even a former correction officer.

Basciano doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.


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Is persico there still with him. That family doesn't stop order I g hits for anybody. One goes to his grandmothers funeral on ferlo and orders scopos death. Him and Vinny gorg with be a bad crew hanging with the ab and Mexican mafia. His bother Michael is still holding out on a 4 5 year plead deal covering multy murders they should induct the whole family into the lcn hall of fame couple years back one of snakes daughters ran out a target in Staten island with her cart full of shit.

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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Granted there are foreign & domestic terrorists there but there seems to be an eclectic mix of Italian, Latin & African American gang leaders, WASP Neo Nazis & separatists and even a former correction officer.

Basciano doesn't stick out like a sore thumb.

He was convicted of killing two scumbags who were murderers themselves, one of whom threatened to kidnap one of Vinny's sons. And if you're not willing to put a bullet in a guy who threatens one of your children, then you're not much of a man.

Of course, I'm not speaking to you specifically, Moe. I'm just making a personal observation. He doesn't belong there. Not for those murders. Jail? Yes. ADX Florence? No fucking way.


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Jurassic park on AMC rite now sleeper for greatest movie evvveerrr.

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Originally Posted By: pmac
couple years back one of snakes daughters ran out a target in Staten island with her cart full of shit.

She sounds like a real catch.


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They kept rizzuto there for his whole bid you know they listen to every call. Bobby manna order a hit on a prosecutor and he still holds sway from his cell in the middle of new jersey. There a letter from scarfo from his time in adx to his mom something like he's a caged dog but would never get up. Yaeh if your girl runs out the store with tbone steaks and shrimp you put a ring on her finger.

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Originally Posted By: pmac
Yaeh if your girl runs out the store with tbone steaks and shrimp you put a ring on her finger.

lol lol lol lol

That's your best ever, pmac. I swear on my kids, I can't stop laughing lol lol lol lol.


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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Belmont
Lets be real, the guy belongs in prison but certainly not ADX.

That's exactly right.

I've said a thousand times that I don't sugarcoat Vinny's life and that murderers belong in jail. But he certainly doesn't belong housed in the terrorist wing with a bunch of raghead extremists. And I'm sorry if I'm being politically incorrect, but this is one instance where I just don't give a shit.

He was found guilty of two public service homicides, and they have him housed with guys who were in on 9/11. Give me a fucking break.


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Originally Posted By: SharpieOne
Thanks for the repsonse, PB. Attorneys in DC and CO have filed class-action suits claiming prolonged solitary is cruel and unusual. Who knows if they'll be heard. Guess that's his best shot.


there is a prison in California called pelican bay, and, its 24 hr lockup, and some have been in solitary for years, its definitely cruel and unusual punishment.

frontline did a doc on it a few years back, nothing changed at all.



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I bet he has to brag about the murders he wasn't convicted of to try and fit in with those psychos. Even the other mobster james marcello who's locked up their was convicted of 18.

It would be funny if they were making fun of him for having such a low body count.

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Marcello was accused of only three murders and convicted of just one.


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Point taken, PB.


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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
Point taken, PB.

Thank you, Moe smile.


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florence colorado is usually the "last stop" for many of its prisoners

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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Belmont
Lets be real, the guy belongs in prison but certainly not ADX.

That's exactly right.

I've said a thousand times that I don't sugarcoat Vinny's life and that murderers belong in jail. But he certainly doesn't belong housed in the terrorist wing with a bunch of raghead extremists. And I'm sorry if I'm being politically incorrect, but this is one instance where I just don't give a shit.

He was found guilty of two public service homicides, and they have him housed with guys who were in on 9/11. Give me a fucking break.


Completely agree. The more I seem to read up on Vinny the more I have the impression that he was railroaded and used as cannon fodder by the feds just to get Massino off the hook and give the huge slap in the face to the CN by flipping a defacto boss.

No idea about him, and maybe I'm exaggerating but Vinny actually sounds like the kind of guy you would gladly have a beer with, if you didn't know who he was.


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That prison made major changes to prisoner treatments a few years ago as they were doing so real medival stuff

I believed this focused on non violent members with several transfers and they even made a new more flexible wing

I think the article was posted here

Having said that I'm not sure vinny would qualify but man you have to feel sorry for him . His life must be pretty bad and there are psychological reports that show super long time solitary can lead to person not even believing they are living or an entity .

I hope Vinny is doing enter then the rest , he belongs in jail but that place is literally hell

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Yeah, I recently read a lengthy NY Times article on Florence ADX. How an unbelievable amount of inmates there are severely mentally unstable. Eating their own feces, chewing off fingers, attempting suicide, etc. Like pb and others here are saying, Florence was designed for the worst of the worst. That said, it's also a great addition to the feds arsenal of tools they can use to fuck with people who defy them, or stand up to them a bit too vigorously and flagrantly. Some people just can't bring themselves to be a good bitch, so as a 'fuck you', the feds shove Florence straight up your ass and let you rot for a couple decades. Only until the BOP gets the nod, will they decide to bounce you around until you're old and sick enough to die in Butner or Missouri.

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VB got a raw deal as far as prison assignments go.

Ridiculous.

But he is a strong guy and will be tough or impossible for them to break him.

The most recent picture I saw he looked like he just won a million dollars, and came from a spa and tanning booth and his hair was perfect in prison haha

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now that's funny! Wouldn't want to be him, but God damn, that's a very humorous description you just gave, blackjack lol

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Originally Posted By: Garbageman
now that's funny! Wouldn't want to be him, but God damn, that's a very humorous description you just gave, blackjack lol


haha, well it is true. I think this is the picture I was referring to. From around 2012


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