Originally Posted By: helenwheels
Originally Posted By: Alfa Romeo
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Gender is characteristics that a society or culture delineates as masculine or feminine. So while you can't change your biological sex, you can change gender. Which is what trans people do.


But can't you see, that if gender is nothing but what society dictates and nothing more, then there is nothing to change. You are talking about changing a social construct, not the person. So it is immaterial, and he is still male with a bunch of ever shifting social constructs swarming through his mind. Understand?


No,because there's self identifying as well which is part of gender identity. And if people want to go through hormones and surgeries to change themselves I have no issues with it. Like I said up thread it causes me no injury.

I guess we see it differently. And that's fine, the world would be less interesting if we all thought the same way. I take no issue with opposing views,especially when people can disagree and discourse repectfully. But I don't now, and never will take issue with what other people do as long as they don't hurt anyone.


But that's just it Helen, he has killed someone, very recently. Several days ago to be precise. Maybe you didn't hear about it? The car accident?

You see, he might have had that accident because what he is going through is very painful, thinking that by changing an immaterial social construct he can change his very soul.

I think everyone mocking Bruce needs to stop because he might kill again.

He mentioned on the TV interview that he thought about taking himself out to end his pain. So this is not harmless. We can encourage him and empower him, but where is his pain coming from then? We can call him a her, and let her use the lady's room, and serve in the military amongside fighting men while wearing lipstick, yet he is still in pain. So something is wrong there and it's not society oppressing him. Maybe just maybe his pain is because he bought into the line of bullschitte that he was born into the wrong body. Of course he will try to kill himself if he can't get a sex change, because, after all, he's in the wrong body.

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