but the part that you put in bold letters that I wrote about them being criminals.. ahha I hate to say it but both the guys I mentioned have for sure had their share of troubles with the law.. especially the second one.. not positive but im pretty sure he went away for a murder charge or something similar? somehow got out and was on house arrest for a pretty long time.. not to mention the other bids hes done upstate dating back a longgg time ago.. now he runs a very successful business and looks like he does very well financially.. good for him.. Im happy for anyone who can go from doing a prison bid to become successful on the outside.