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John Scalish #835433
03/31/15 06:28 AM
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Was Scalish a made member and leader of Cleveland? The same doesn't sound Italian, it's more like irish?! Also is there any other made members who's surnames don't end in a vowel? The only one I can think of is senter and I think that's because of a northern Italian heritage?

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835434
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Same was meant to read name sorry

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835440
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they used to change their surnames to avoid scrunity from law enforcement back in the day. Domninic Brooklier, Pat Marcy all did it.

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835444
03/31/15 07:37 AM
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His real surname was Scalise I think.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835447
03/31/15 07:58 AM
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Past caring, then hang a left
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Past caring, then hang a left
immigrants names were also often changed by authorities when they came to america to make them sound less ethnic. example: Belmonte to Belmont, etc


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Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835448
03/31/15 07:59 AM
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i also think his real surname was scalise anyway in italy there are some surnames that don't end with a vowel as martines and lopez for example that are common in southern italy coz they are of spanish descent

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835471
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His surname was Scalise but call him Scalish.

Last edited by furio_from_naples; 03/31/15 10:31 AM.
Re: John Scalish [Re: furio_from_naples] #835475
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Interesting fact: His refusal to make new members forced Frank Brancato to delegate soldier-level work to unmade associates. One of those associates names was Danny Greene...

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835530
03/31/15 05:57 PM
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Scalish also at one time had his captains,underboss etc shy away from driving
cars that would draw attention, Cadillac's, etc.
He was very much a under the radar boss.

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835531
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Parallels Angelo Bruno for sure.

Re: John Scalish [Re: BarrettM] #835624
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Interesting fact: His refusal to make new members forced Frank Brancato to delegate soldier-level work to unmade associates. One of those associates names was Danny Greene...


At the end don't make new blood,saved Licavoli because if Nardi was made and not a powerful associate,when Greene and him go to ny to talk with Fat Tony,the genovese can't say to 2 associate "the cleveland family is our" because is against all the rules; so fat tony help Licavoli to win the war.

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835625
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In other news this Cleveland mob article makes me want to eat nails

http://www.cosanostranews.com/2012/08/when-licavoli-tapped-cane-lives-would.html

Re: John Scalish [Re: HotRod2015] #835656
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He was the boss of the Cleveland Cosa Nostra and this is pretty much universal fact and has been such..

Re: John Scalish [Re: BarrettM] #835659
04/01/15 01:49 PM
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Originally Posted By: BarrettM
Interesting fact: His refusal to make new members forced Frank Brancato to delegate soldier-level work to unmade associates. One of those associates names was Danny Greene...


there is a book about danny greene, " kill the Irishman" I guess he gave them a run for their money for awhile,



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"

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