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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: NE1020]
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03/28/15 07:09 AM
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On June 24, 1946 two shotgun blasts were fired by Outfit hitmen at James Ragen.Ragen was still alive and was rushed to the nearest hospital.He was in critical condition and remained alive until August 14, when he died under mysterious conditions. It was later reported that Ragen’s autopsy showed traces of mercury in his blood and abdomen indicating that someone had entered his room and poisoned him.
Also the infamous Abe Reles case.Rumours were that the cops who wached Reles were paid by the mob to throw him from the window of his hotel room.
In 1931,Anton Cermak was elected Chicago's 36th mayor, he wanted to take over the city and to destroy the Outfit with the help of rival gangs.Ted Newberry, a former associate of George "Bugs" Moran and Roger Touhy sided with Cermak against the Capone mob.One of Newberry's and Cermak’s obstacle was Frank Nitti so Cermak summoned two members of his special police squad to Nitti's office, Harry Miller and Henry Lang.They went to his office and Lang fired five shots into Frank Nitti but Nitti managed to survive.Later on February 15, 1933,Anton Cermak was shot to death while shaking hands with the President Franklin Roosevelt in Miami, Florida.Legend goes that the Chicago Outfit was behind the hit because of revenge but theres no real evidence.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 07:43 AM
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I don't recall if it was Leonetti, Scarfo or Petey Crumb Caprio who supposedly planned a hit consisting of a hit team, a clean up and transport team, a digging a hole team, and another team to unearth the body and take to another previously dug grave. Sure did. The Philly mob tradition was to section off separate parts of the murder to different units, so unless everybody flips, you can't know the whole story. Caramandi explained the logic in his book. To me, it seems like assigning the contract to a handful of trusted people only would be a better way to go about it, but I understand why in the 40's and 50's this was an attractive strategy. Especially because it can be a prerequisite to involve certain people in a murder just so you can make 'em. Easy, buffalo mafia. That guy who they killed in LA. Drinking my coffee gimme a minute and I'll edit in what happened.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 08:34 AM
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The cannoli in "Godfather III."
Poor Connie got the blame, but I heard that it was all because of bad refrigeration. The cream just went bad. A tragic accident. The Paul Castellano hit was brilliantly planned and executed (no pun intended). Put together by Frank DiCicco, it used four shooters wearing identical hats and coats, and using identical guns, with a pair of shooters assigned to each victim (Castellano and Bilotti). The identical garb, and identical weapons, made it impossible for witnesses to make a positive I.D. of any individual. And, the big show of force probably intimidated witnesses.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: NE1020]
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03/28/15 08:50 AM
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Sounds a little like the 3 capos hit, except that nobody fucked up here. I'm really liking the Bruno story though. Also, pretty much any murder by the DeMeo crew, but that' a given since they had perfected murder to an art form. Oh yeah the Castellano hit went down flawlessly... the people thought they were KGB/Russian killers at first.
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-I shot him a coupla' times. -What's a couple? -Hmm, more than a couple... Really I don't know the exact amount, maybe I shot him 10 times, 12 times? -Maybe fifteen? -Hmm, it could've been fifteen...
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: NE1020]
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03/28/15 09:32 AM
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In Sicily, 1994, Domenico Raccuglia and Michele Traina on Giovanni Brusca's orders killed Girolamo La Barbera, the father of an informant, and made it look like suicide. However, it wasn't staged very well, since they are serving life for that now, but at least they tried.
There have also been some hits staged as accidents in Italy; in 1995 the captain Natale De Grazia who investigated toxic waste trafficking was poisoned in such a manner that nobody still got it when and where exactly the poison was administered. Also, the Melito Porto Salvo 'ndrangheta boss Natale Iamonte and his politician friends allegedly masterminded a "car accident" in which a man was killed who opposed their construction projects in zones with unstable soil, where it was risky to put up buildings.
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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."
2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: Malandrino]
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03/28/15 09:52 AM
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Sounds a little like the 3 capos hit, except that nobody fucked up here. I'm really liking the Bruno story though. Also, pretty much any murder by the DeMeo crew, but that' a given since they had perfected murder to an art form. Oh yeah the Castellano hit went down flawlessly... the people thought they were KGB/Russian killers at first. Castellano was definitely the ballsiest, in my opinion.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 12:37 PM
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Sounds a little like the 3 capos hit, except that nobody fucked up here. I'm really liking the Bruno story though. Also, pretty much any murder by the DeMeo crew, but that' a given since they had perfected murder to an art form. Oh yeah the Castellano hit went down flawlessly... the people thought they were KGB/Russian killers at first. Castellano was definitely the ballsiest, in my opinion. I have to disagree, the killing of albert Anastasia was the most daring of all. imagine the consequences if the contract was botched.
" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 01:14 PM
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I have to disagree, the killing of albert Anastasia was the most daring of all.
imagine the consequences if the contract was botched. And if the Castellano hit was botched? Castellano would have teamed with Chin, and the entire Commission would have had no choice but to go along with them. The entire Dellacroce faction of the family, along with the Castellano faction traitors, would have paid the price.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/28/15 01:34 PM
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I have to disagree, the killing of albert Anastasia was the most daring of all.
imagine the consequences if the contract was botched. And if the Castellano hit was botched? Castellano would have teamed with Chin, and the entire Commission would have had no choice but to go along with them. The entire Dellacroce faction of the family, along with the Castellano faction traitors, would have paid the price. There was no room for mistskes ( hence the big hit team ) According to Gravano," john tells them ( the shooters) this hit is huge, if the cops turn up shoot it out with them. If we don't get these two guys, we are ALL DEAD"
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
[Re: pizzaboy]
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03/28/15 01:57 PM
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Hoffa.
A million conspiracy theories, and a dozen guys taking credit, from crooked lawyers to chronic jailhouse liars (although lawyers and lying criminals are hardly mutually exclusive).
Yet he's missing without a trace for forty years. It doesn't get much more intricate than that. Pizza, have you read Sheeran's book Heard You Paint Houses? I read it, the lack of crazy conspiracy theory type stuff in it makes me believe him. It just seems the least ridiculous of the stories. (He also claims to have killed Joey Gallo, that one seems more far fetched.)
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 02:25 PM
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I thought the John McCullough hit in philly was pretty creative.The door rings at Christmas time and a delivery guy with flowers is standing there.Mrs. McCullough lets them in while her marked husband is talking on the phone.The great guy bearing gifts excuses himself to retrieve more beautiful presents but returns with death.I think that is ruthless,cunning and very lcn.It is Scarfo.Hell,they were even arguing how much to tip the guy.This had them fooled perfectly
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/28/15 07:41 PM
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I read the Sheeran book when it first was published. If I recall correctly, Sheeran told his biographer that he was in the place where Hoffa must have been whacked, but did not actually witness the murder, nor did he kill Hoffa. I'll check it out, TB. You know how I feel about poorly written mob books. The only thing worse is a poorly made mob movie (which is most of them).
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/29/15 05:49 PM
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I read the Sheeran book when it first was published. If I recall correctly, Sheeran told his biographer that he was in the place where Hoffa must have been whacked, but did not actually witness the murder, nor did he kill Hoffa. I will double check, but he said he shot Hoffa in the back of the head. There were other guys there, in another room, they were apparently there to dispose of the body.
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Re: Mob's most intricate killings?
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03/31/15 05:04 PM
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Nicolo Rizzuto-a single sniper bullet took him out in his mansion in the middle of a family dinner.....talk about getting a guy where he feels safest.
"Whackin' the boss....another thing I get left out of."
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