I'm sure most have by now seen the horrific news of what ISIS did to that poor Jordanian pilot. They are scum, the worst Iv'e seen in my lifetime. Unfortunately I see no alternative but for us, the West to destroy them, I don't think Arab countries will do anything about them, apart from maybe Jordan.
The argument goes that its not up to us to sort out middle eastern problems, especially after the previous Iraq war. However I feel ISIS threatens the West, terrorist plots are being discovered all the time, what will they be capable of if they grow any stronger? 9/11 type attacks? who knows.
Air Strikes are not enough, we need numerous countries, UK, US, Jordan, etc to send in troops and completely overrun and destroy them. Its disgraceful what they are getting away with. I think this war is far more justified than the previous Iraq war.

This conflict never would have escalated this bad if the Iraqi army actually fought ISIS instead of running away at the beginning phase.

And ISIS is the worlds responsibility now. These guys are influencing world terrorism. Their presence in the media is propaganda enough for crazy people in the west act like lone gunmen. And not to forget European members returning to the west. The middle-east isn't the only area in danger. So I agree Iraq and Syria need foreign intervention.

I hope that something will be done about these assholes before the people of the middle-east will suffer even more.

So they lit the guy up for shock value big deal.

Jordan has a women who explosive jack did not go off.

She is in Jordanian jail light her up

Go back to bombing them but this time use Napalm. Light them up.

They obviously think beheadings arent now shocking enough, they need to escalate the torture....absolutely disgusting. I cant understand how punishing an individual so badly for the (perceived) behaviour of nations/other religions forwards your cause. Isis can only be doing it to provoke a huge scale war in the hope that some nations, no doubt those supporting sharia law and broadly in line with isis ideologies, end up railing against their western allies.

Lessons have to be learned at some point though...the usa in particular through what seems to be its continual search for global hegemony for the last 70 years or so, seems to have a history of picking some dubious allies come enemies, training/arming groups who end up using the skills against them....the mudjahideen who were trained and financed to combat the russian threat, al qaeda who were trained and financed to fight in the balkans war (and in return tacitly permitted by the cia to continue their heroin trade into europe) and now isis who were trained and financed to fight the battle in Syria fairly recently. Thats without even touching on numerous other uprisings organised in Latin America (granted most of those dont have batshit religious ideolgies driving them towards guerilla warfare and are more often eventually dealt with by crippling sanctions if they dont play ball).

Why continually get into bed with these animals? The age old arguement, its was for the greater good to stop the spread of **add any religion/nation/ideology** or to rescue a nation from an evil dictator is just simply bullshit...smoke and mirrors. You just breed mistrust in anybody with half a brain and consistently create argueably greater threats to western societies. It does help the arms trade though I suppose....

They hung that women they should have burned her ass.

If we really went after them ISIS would end in a month or less. You have to have the will to do it right. Do it fast everything ends do it slow it never ends.

They are asking a move in the US

Check out this video on YouTube:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P4DOyAwN13U&feature=youtube_gdata_player

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-...government.html
The locals are starting to show more resistance.

good point about the Iraqi army, we never could trust them to fight, we had to do it all, George bush made a great mistake putting us in there, hope he's enjoying himself now, as we have to go back and try and fix his screw up. worst president in U.S. history. bar none.

Barack Obama may have surpassed Bush.

worst U.S presidents. five worst.
1- George bush
2- Lyndon Johnson
3- barak Obama
4- harry Truman
5- Abraham lincon

my humble opinion only.

Why is Lincoln and Truman on the list if you don't mind me asking? Bush, and Johnson I agree with. With Obama time will tell on everything he has done.

I did not think Kennedy was a good president.

Lincoln I thought he was a good President.

I thought Clinton in his first term was a terrible President. He moved up in the second term because he figured out it was a good move to work with the republicans in his second term.

Obama how much time do you need to know he was a waste.

Where's Nixon on your list, Binnie?

In the short time he had, he did a lot to shape the future. For me the worst President we ever had would be James Buchanan. Along with LBJ, Hoover, Harding, Carter, W. Bush, and Andrew Johnson.

What about Nixon? Morally he must be down there (probably just because his administration was unlucky enough to get caught).

Sorry Mal, just saw you mentioned him above..

And that would make them the same as the ISS

You treat people like your treated except much worse. Then they will think twice about fucking with you.

The only thing he did wrong was try to cover up the break in. He did not order the break in.

Did he get us out of Vietnam? I seem to remember he did with Kissinger. Am I wrong about that?

FT...is that not how isis think at the moment? Its not really working for them....

Re nixon...he procrastinated for far too long over vietnam and needlessly wasted far more american lives than was necessary. I accept your point about watergate though, however it opened the public's eyes to just how underhand political parties/presidents can actually be and thats possibly had a negative impact on how many people have viewed politics since

It not working for them? There recruiting more then ever. They have an American women I wonder what they will do to her or have they don't it already.

They think we don't have the will to do anything about it, and we dont.

Their going to have a good time with her.

We lost what 60 thousand men. How did the cong treat our prisoners? Every time the Vietnam cong called a cease fire we said ok. They called cease fire to re supply not for peace talks.

Oh what was the enemy death count more or less?

Also, Kissinger is perhaps not an ideal candidate (an understatement) for someone who stops wars...he authorised the back door shipment of 90% of the weapons in 1975 for the Indonesian invasion/massacre in east timor, a key country in south east asia at the time, which resulted in the rape, torture and murder of 200,000 of the population.

Kissinger (just a coincidence i'm sure) was also on the board of Freeport Mcmoran, a major lobbyist in congress at the time which had the largest gold mining operation in the world.....based in Indochina.

What a hero.....

Theres plenty more examples around the world in which he's been directly responsible for atrocities.

Im not sure treating people much worse so they dont fuck with you is the best way forward, but I totally get your reasoning behind it, especially after recent events but history shows it doesnt work

Nixon was no better or no worse than any other politician. I was fifteen years old when Watergate broke, still in high school, and full of mock outrage just like the rest of my generation. It took me close to forty years to realize that they're all the same. Nixon got caught. That's the only difference.

Meanwhile, that fa***t-ass liberal Obama won't even utter the words "Islamic extremism."

It's disgraceful Ivy!