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Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. #817939
12/09/14 10:16 AM
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.. on the spot as they were uncovered? Do you guys know of such an incident

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #817947
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that fat rat ron private said he was playing cards and the wire fell down his pants or something but probably a lie to make him sound more joe pistonish. the book was ok but looking back its fool of lies. think he said he was playing cards with that old guy frank Gambino maybe who was a gangster.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #817948
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just watching the Pamela smart doc on hbo the sate police had her best friend wear a wire and pams lawyer had known about it before hand and she still did, pam knew the girl was wearing a wire good watch, 1990 weird year.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: pmac] #817952
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To the best of my knowledge in never happened. And it's weird considering how bulky those old recording devices were. And today? The can put a bug the size of a micro chip just about anywhere. Inside a watch, inside a salt shaker, inside a belt buckle, and certainly inside a cell phone (like they did with Greg, and that was ten years ago, so just imagine what they have in their arsenal now).


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Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #817956
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that Colombo capo from florida ray was wearing the wired up rolex in 2011 or 2012 probably the same one cookies durso was wearing 14 years ago. think its probably not a good look to own a rolex in mob circles today. the guy ray when first indicted was held a danger to the public and then let out quickly, I read people new he was wired up. he didn't even care telling some people not ot talk casue someone could be listening crazy. but again the Genovese when they inducted the Anthony from mass guy down the Bronx in 2003 made him leave all his shit phone jewels ect at a bar then go to a house and strip they learned from durso. I forgot the Colombo capo he wore the wire to a meeting with the 3 high guys russo and all the capos in 2010 them wire tap caused the whole family to got indicted he was probably wearing a rolex the guy died since he was old. he was also in tommy shots crew so when he didn't get indicted with all of them someone should have seen the writing on the wall. but the guy did go way back was a bodyguard for Colombo.

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hector from mob wives was that a watch to or a wire anyone know?

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Originally Posted By: pmac
hector from mob wives was that a watch to or a wire anyone know?

I doubt they use actual wires in this day and age. That'd be like taping last night's game with a BetaMax. But I could be wrong about that.


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Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: pizzaboy] #817974
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
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hector from mob wives was that a watch to or a wire anyone know?

I doubt they use actual wires in this day and age. That'd be like taping last night's game with a BetaMax. But I could be wrong about that.

It's got to be bugs in everything like you previously stated, I don't see any other way.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #818010
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think it was at that guy Thomas farese trial ray was on the stand and his lawyers fought tooth and nail for the fbi to have to show the technology used in recorded them guys and for them to take a look at it. the feds got there way and the judge threw out the request cause it would expose people in the field today or other wired up mobsters.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #818059
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Doubt we'd ever hear about it. The mob would never tell for obvious reasons, the Feds would never say anything because of the liability/lawsuits, and any informant that had knowledge would be told to shut up or lose his get out of jail free card.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #818084
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If you believe the family of Frank Lagano, it happened recently right here in Jersey. They are claiming the Bergen County Detectives dimed him out as well....

GREAT ARTICLE!

http://www.northjersey.com/news/from-a-tattered-mob-case-bitter-charges-flare-1.348596

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: DanteMoltisanti] #818091
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Great article. here's the follow up. what's interesting is how the most recent lawyer representing this Lagano guy just turned up dead too.

http://www.northjersey.com/news/crime-and-courts/alleged-mob-hit-suit-reinstated-1.1110655




Originally Posted By: DanteMoltisanti
If you believe the family of Frank Lagano, it happened recently right here in Jersey. They are claiming the Bergen County Detectives dimed him out as well....

GREAT ARTICLE!

http://www.northjersey.com/news/from-a-tattered-mob-case-bitter-charges-flare-1.348596


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Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #821334
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That happened during the hells angels biker war up here in Quebec.

The angels along with their chieftain 'Mom', were staying at this hotel for a weekend and a cop from Ontario, with his montreal partner, took up a room next to them for surveillance, only to find out one day that someone had broken into their room, and stole a laptop from the OPP officer, which contained at least one source's name, Claude Desserres. The montreal cop confronted 'Mom' about the theft and demanded the stuff back, and was told ''This ain't my problem, I'm not with the police'', lol.

Long story short, the angels lured him out north of montreal during winter to check out a new grow-op, and when he opened the door to the place, he had a gun shoved in his face, and within a minute or two was shot to death, and abandoned on a side of the road, tied up.

Only thing about it is, Desserres was wearing a bodypack(wire) the whole time, including the trip, and his death. They recently, in a french OC documentary, release the audio on that, and you can hear the killer's and the victim's last exchanges which went something like this:

HA: I want to know TWO things.
C.D: Go ahead.
HA: You work for the police, and I want to know for how long.
C.D(realizing the gig was up): Well... I got a real problem here, hm..

Two shots then rang out.

What's amazing is the carelessness of murdering an informant and not having the wits to check him out for that sort of stuff, but yeah, the audio just chills your blood when you hear it. The police recovered the bodypack and used it as evidence to jail the guy heard on tape killing that informant.

Re: Which informants who wore a wire got ever killed.. [Re: mickey2] #821364
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I remember reading somewhere that a guy named Nat Masselli was killed that way. But in Fish Cafaro's testimony he later said that someone had asked the boss for permission to kill Masselli before he ended up dead.

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