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Re: new relations with cuba.
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Not watching it, but she's STILL a good-lookin' gal. I'd go to Havana with her.
Did any of you see "Guys and Dolls"? (with Marlon Brando). He took his lady interest for a night trip to Havana. Fun scene in a fun movie. Haven't watched it in awhile SC maybe I'll watch Netflix later today see if it's on there.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/22/14 09:46 AM
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My aunt and uncle lived in Cuba during WWll and he was working for the government. He used to meet with Ernest Hemingway every morning and install sonar gear on Hemingway's fishing boat. He would then meet with him at the end off the fishing day to remove the gear. The USA believed the Nazi's had U-boats in the gulf of Mexico, and Hemingway was helping us try to locate them. We used to hear great stories about Cuba. He met with Hemingway everyday?
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/22/14 09:59 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't people been able to travel there if they had blood relations or descendants from Cuba? Maybe it started at the end of the Bush Era. I graduated college in 2010 and it was one of my old roommates talking about it. La, US trade and travel restrictions regarding Cuba have followed something of a tortured path. They were allowed to lapse through the Carter administration, but were reinstated during the Reagan administration. One can travel to Cuba. However, US law and regulations prohibit the spending of US currency in Cuba which effectively makes travel to Cuba by a American an arduous if not impossible sojourn without violating US law.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/22/14 01:58 PM
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Americans cannot legally travel to Cuba except for sanctioned family visits, or for "educational" purposes (i.e., tours organized by religious or cultural groups, etc.). However, many Americans travel to Cuba by first going to, say, Canada or Jamaica, then booking a flight from there to Cuba. The Cubans oblige by not stamping their passports. However, those "illegal" American tourists have to pay for everything by cash.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/22/14 03:18 PM
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Americans cannot legally travel to Cuba except for sanctioned family visits, or for "educational" purposes (i.e., tours organized by religious or cultural groups, etc.). However, many Americans travel to Cuba by first going to, say, Canada or Jamaica, then booking a flight from there to Cuba. The Cubans oblige by not stamping their passports. However, those "illegal" American tourists have to pay for everything by cash. so this is going to change, how TB.?
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/22/14 03:55 PM
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Americans cannot legally travel to Cuba except for sanctioned family visits, or for "educational" purposes (i.e., tours organized by religious or cultural groups, etc.). However, many Americans travel to Cuba by first going to, say, Canada or Jamaica, then booking a flight from there to Cuba. The Cubans oblige by not stamping their passports. However, those "illegal" American tourists have to pay for everything by cash. so this is going to change, how TB.? As TB and I have pointed out in our posts above, travel to Cuba can take place legally, but as a function of very tight restrictions. It can take place illegally as TB has explained. However, some Americans have been prosecuted for doing so and have paid fines. The easing of Cuba travel and trade restrictions would remove the predicates for federal prosecution, but I imagine that some restrictions will remain in place. Keep in mind that many such restrictions are outside of the scope of Presidential authority. They would have to be mitigated by Congress. There's probably alot of negotiating left to be done between the US and Cuba and between the President and Congress.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/23/14 11:14 AM
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Correct me if I'm wrong, but haven't people been able to travel there if they had blood relations or descendants from Cuba? Maybe it started at the end of the Bush Era. I graduated college in 2010 and it was one of my old roommates talking about it. La, US trade and travel restrictions regarding Cuba have followed something of a tortured path. They were allowed to lapse through the Carter administration, but were reinstated during the Reagan administration. One can travel to Cuba. However, US law and regulations prohibit the spending of US currency in Cuba which effectively makes travel to Cuba by a American an arduous if not impossible sojourn without violating US law. Gotcha, Thanks for clearing that up!
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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My aunt and uncle lived in Cuba during WWll and he was working for the government. He used to meet with Ernest Hemingway every morning and install sonar gear on Hemingway's fishing boat. He would then meet with him at the end off the fishing day to remove the gear. The USA believed the Nazi's had U-boats in the gulf of Mexico, and Hemingway was helping us try to locate them. We used to hear great stories about Cuba. They actually sank one off the coast of Louisiana, German Nazi U-Boat: U-166. Here's a link: http://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/...eology-history/
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/23/14 12:44 PM
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so obama is the president that slapped the cubans in the face? Yup. do you believe any of this shit that you type? Do you even know what a trade embargo is, Cook? It must be getting cold in Chicago given the time of year. Why don't you bundle up real tight, put on a hoodie, and go out and buy yourself a bag of Skittles. Hahahahahahaha omg. I'm sorry for laughing at this but it's funny. But Pizza boy and I have generally the same political views from what I see him put on here so I agree with what he's saying. Can't stand obama. Can't stand how people say he lowered gas prices and killed Osama bin laden.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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12/24/14 07:18 AM
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Hope the Yanks get some players out of this if they let Cuban bb players come to the u.s, there is going to be a lot of talented Cubans playing in the majors. they can play ball. the dodgers, angels, and Yankees would be the ones to offer them the most money, I believe. I'm excited. The Yankees have been quiet this offseason maybe that'll change soon. We need some hitters. Also at least one more pitcher.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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01/15/15 11:16 AM
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Washington (CNN)Americans will face fewer obstacles in traveling to Cuba under new regulations announced by the Obama administration Thursday, continuing a promise to thaw relations with the country the President started last month.
While short of lifting the decades-old U.S. embargo on the island, a move that would require Congressional approval, the administration's new rules on travel and trade will likely herald a new era in ties between the two countries.
Under the softened regulations whose details were outlined in more detail Thursday, Americans will be able to visit Cuba without first seeking a license from the Treasury Department, so long as the travel meets certain criteria. The new regulations will take effect Friday, according to the U.S. Treasury.
Cuban Americans traveling to see family members, American officials on government trips, journalists on assignment on the island as well as every day citizen visiting for educational, cultural, religious reasons will no longer need permission first. The new regulations allow travel agents and airlines to book tickets for U.S. citizens to Cuba without a special license from the Treasury Department's Office of Foreign Assets Control known as OFAC. Americans traveling to the island will also be allowed to use credit cards, a restriction that complicated trips to Cuba in the past.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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01/18/15 09:32 AM
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Exactly what I taught. If the people taste freedom then they will maybe realize the change their country needs. A guy at work always says that the US handled wrong during the 50s 60s with Cuba. He said that Cubans love baseball and had the US sent the Yankees then, to raise the spirits of the Cubans then the Castro regime could have been prevented, sort of Pingpong politics they did with China. Kennedy, Johnson and Nixon all fucked up with Cuba. It was a part of the virulent anti-Communist culture that ran high in the U.S. at the time. The Cold War was at its height in the sixties and it was not policy of the U.S. Government or the CIA to tolerate communism in their own backyard. A hostile nation 90 miles away from you would put anyone on alert. But I agree with the guy you talked to at work. The situation got too nasty and fucked up to deal with effectively.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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How do most Americans see this whole new relations with Cuba thing? I mean do they support lifting the embargo etc. ? And why did it take so long for this to happen, even after the fall of the soviet union? I can think of it only as a better thing but thats my opinion. our relationship with cuba has always been idiotic, we trade with china, and people go there constandly, ever since Nixon went there in 1974. we trade with Vietnam, and travel there. it has always been the far right wing who were against any ties with cuba, j. edgar hoover, the john birch society, its really been a stupid policy run by morons. it should have happened even before we had dealings with china.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
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01/18/15 11:50 AM
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Exactly what I taught. If the people taste freedom then they will maybe realize the change their country needs. A guy at work always says that the US handled wrong during the 50s 60s with Cuba. He said that Cubans love baseball and had the US sent the Yankees then, to raise the spirits of the Cubans then the Castro regime could have been prevented, sort of Pingpong politics they did with China. Yep, China just passed the US as the number one economy in the world. They did this by copying some US capitalist free market reforms. Many exiled Cuban Americans lobbied against friendly relations with the Castro regime. This may have partly shaped US policy toward Cuba over the years.
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