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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/19/14 02:51 PM
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what do you think of this matter? I think that you deliberately start the most politically divisive threads. But that's neither here nor there . But seriously, the trade embargo should have been lifted years ago. But the way Obama is going about it is a slap in the face to every Cuban who ever jumped off a raft in the Florida Straits. Surprise, surprise. Right? But this might actually be good for the Republicans because it gives Rubio a serious national platform now. He can really shine here and position himself for 2016 if he plays his cards right.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/19/14 03:16 PM
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well, you certainly got a point. about the prisoner exchange, that took second billing in the press, let's see what happens here, a lot of people will be very down, if it comes to what you suspicion.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/19/14 04:28 PM
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Let me preference this with the fact i think it should have been lifted a decade ago. But this deal seems odd on several fronts. We got essentially zero concessions and essentially gave away all our leverage. The castro brothers are among the most wretched, vile regimes in human histroy. We should have got concession for concession with these scumbags including freeing political prisoners, giving up criminals and mariginal political reforms. They need us more than we need them. These guys were in a rough spot. Venezuela, cubas chief supporter, is near bankruptcy with oil prices and hyperinflation. We gave them a second life.
I will not even get into rewarding these guys for keeping american hostages.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/19/14 05:44 PM
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It does seem Raul Castro is not as hostile (as a leader that is) as Fidel was, I really think he wants to get Cuba into a tourist hot spot again eventually. He doesn't seem like the guerrilla leader that Fidel was. But you just never know with those fools. Who would have thought we'd still be fussing with Russia and talking to Cuba? I do agree Obama slapped every Cuban in the fact that faced those Florida Straits (which is no damn joke in a fucking raft) like PB said. I still remember when the Cubans rioted here in the Federal Pen and took 10 correction officers as hostages because they were part of the Mariel (sp?) boat lift of the 80's and were being deported. Luckily nobody died. I worked for a contractor one time that was Cuban. He started a multi billion dollar company out of Miami and was a Cuban refugee. The story stunk, but the fact remains his kids still run it today. They lead the lists of specialty contractors in the U.S. today doing road work, telecommunications and even line work and I hate every one of them Google Mastec and you'll see just how big they are.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: pizzaboy]
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12/20/14 02:56 PM
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what do you think of this matter? I think that you deliberately start the most politically divisive threads. But that's neither here nor there . But seriously, the trade embargo should have been lifted years ago. But the way Obama is going about it is a slap in the face to every Cuban who ever jumped off a raft in the Florida Straits. Surprise, surprise. Right? But this might actually be good for the Republicans because it gives Rubio a serious national platform now. He can really shine here and position himself for 2016 if he plays his cards right. so obama is the president that slapped the cubans in the face? do you believe any of this shit that you type?
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: cookcounty]
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12/20/14 04:48 PM
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so obama is the president that slapped the cubans in the face? Yup. do you believe any of this shit that you type? Do you even know what a trade embargo is, Cook? It must be getting cold in Chicago given the time of year. Why don't you bundle up real tight, put on a hoodie, and go out and buy yourself a bag of Skittles.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/21/14 09:52 AM
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you're sick with public assistance money and EBT cards.
You are a failure for a reason, cook. Just be thankful that folks like pizza, italianforever and I go to work everyday so you can remain on the couch, receive public assistance and write sub-70 IQ posts.
Last edited by LittleNicky; 12/21/14 09:53 AM.
Should probably ask Mr. Kierney. I guess if you're Italian, you should be in prison. I've read the RICO Act, and I can tell you it's more appropriate... for some of those guys over in Washington than it is for me or any of my fellas here
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: LittleNicky]
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12/21/14 09:54 AM
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and write sub-70 IQ posts. You're being far too generous.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: SC]
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12/21/14 01:26 PM
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I think it's more along the lines of stabilizing the relationship with a communist government that is less than a hundred miles from our border, before Russia can entertain them about continuing to be our enemy. Plus I think Raul is not as hardlined as his brother was and is out to make his country more profitable instead of living in the shadows of the US with the continuing "you communist, me democratic" caveman enemy thinking.
Sugar Cane farmers in Louisiana are not too happy about opening relations with Cuba, in the past twenty years agriculture has drifted from Rice fields to Sugarcane fields down here. Yep if we open things up with Cuba you better believe they'll go broke down there because it would be cheaper to get surgarcane in Cuba than in Louisiana. And I agree with you on Raul too, he seems 10x smarter than Fidel in terms of trying to bring money into his country. I'm sure he is just as dangerous as he used to be when he was 2nd in command, but he now knows to be more quiet with that crap and make himself look less hostile. OK, you both were warned about this shit. You want to continue, despite requests to stop. So go and kill each other OFF THE BOARDS. If either of you survive until New Year's you can come back then and we'll see how you proceed then.
It's your own fault and your own doing. To be fair SC, once again it all started with cook popping into this thread (and not adding anything to it by the way) and poking the snake until the snake bit him. Just not fair to kill the snake when all he did was protect himself.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: dixiemafia]
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12/21/14 02:23 PM
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This move was long overdue. Cuba is no longer a threat to any other country. The Castro brothers don't have much time left. The embargo simply hurt the Cuban people (many of whom like Americans) and provided the Castros with ready-made anti-American propaganda--the better to keep their people in chains. Lifting the embargo (eventually) will lift Cubans' standard of living, making it more unlikely that the Castros will be succeeded by another Communist government. The GOP will make a big show, as Rubio is doing, to oppose this move. Before long, the big business people who own the GOP will see Cuba as a major investment opportunity--and the GOP will shut up and go along.
Cuba before the revolution had a substantial middle class. Cubans were among the most accomplished people in the Western Hemisphere. Castro regarded his middle class as "bourgeois," and a threat to his regime. So, he drove out Cuba's most productive citizens. They came here and are building our country, not his.
Ntra la porta tua lu sangu � sparsu, E nun me mporta si ce muoru accisu... E s'iddu muoru e vaju mparadisu Si nun ce truovo a ttia, mancu ce trasu.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: dixiemafia]
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12/21/14 04:21 PM
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To be fair SC, once again it all started with cook popping into this thread (and not adding anything to it by the way) and poking the snake until the snake bit him. Just not fair to kill the snake when all he did was protect himself. Both cook and pb have been warned REPEATEDLY about the flaming. I no longer care who started it. Both of them are guilty here and both of them are suspended.
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Binnie_Coll]
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12/21/14 05:38 PM
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I never knew Cuba didn't have cell phones till 2008. I'm watching 60 minutes they were talking about that. Shit Reese Witherspoon looks good she's on right now!
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: Dellacroce]
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12/21/14 05:43 PM
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Except cookcounty adds absolutley nothing to this board, has over a 1000 posts of trolling bullshit, while PB IS this board. The difference should be clear as day. You'd be very smart to drop this right now. Let's see if you "get it".
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Re: new relations with cuba.
[Re: SC]
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12/21/14 05:47 PM
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Except cookcounty adds absolutley nothing to this board, has over a 1000 posts of trolling bullshit, while PB IS this board. The difference should be clear as day. You'd be very smart to drop this right now. Let's see if you "get it". SC are you watching 60 minutes there talking about Cuba right now and people will soon be allowed to travel there. What do you think of Leslie Stahl was she a fox back in the day or what !
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