Ah OK. I know that the genovese are pretty dominant down in jersey but I'm not qualified to give a who's who. I'm sure one of the more informed members here will answer that question when they see this.. to add to this post tho, maybe someone can answer another question. Are these NY families stronger in NJ than the decalvs? It seems like they can't catch a break. I've heard that the NY families and even philly bullied them on their own turf