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Quiet Dom Cirillo #683555
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My question is did Quiet Dom allow the Bonannos to clip his son?
It'd be great if anybody could fill me in on this situation.Thanks fellas

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683557
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According to all the current information, Dom gave the ok to his own family (Genovese) to clip his own son. Cirillo Jr got into a fight with Dominick Cicale (made guy) and Basciano Jr (up for induction) and the Bonannos put a beef into the Genovese and the Westside got rid of Cirillo Jr (who was apparently a druggie/junkie).

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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683565
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How could someone ever allow someone to kill their own kid

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683574
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I mean Dom is obviously a firm believer in that thing of theirs. But that is some cold,cold stuff....

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683600
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It seems like with the power Dom had, he could of easily gotten his son a pass. If he really was a junkie, maybe this was the last straw for Dom. Even so, that's some cold blooded shit.


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683653
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Everyone thought it was the bonnanos but when massino wore the wire on vinny in jail basciano said "that came from dom"

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683700
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I can see the Genoveses agreeing to whack the kid for the Bonannos but can't see them giving the Bonannos the pleasure of taking out Dom's kid themselves.

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683701
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The presumed murder of the son of high-ranking Genovese gangster Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo may have finally been solved - a top mobster says the order to kill him came from the victim's father.
Nicholas Cirillo's fate came up in a candid conversation between ex-Bonanno boss Joseph Massino and acting boss Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basciano secretly recorded for the feds by Massino.
"That came from Dom, that came from Dom," Basciano told Massino in the January 2005 talk when asked who did in the mobster's son.
Massino, the highest ranking Mafia rat ever to testify in a New York courtroom was asked by prosecutor Taryn Merkl to explain what Basciano meant.
"I understand that he's telling me Quiet Dom killed his son," Massino testified in Brooklyn Federal Court.
Authorities have long suspected Nicholas Cirillo was whacked after an altercation in the Bronx with Basciano's son, Vincent Jr., and Bonanno soldier Dominick Cicale.
Two weeks after the clash Nicholas Cirillo, then 41, vanished on Mother's Day 2004. His body has never been found.
High price for breaking rules
Dominick Cirillo, a former acting boss of the Genovese family who earned his nickname because he is low-key and surveillance conscious, refused to cooperate with police.
And he was evasive when questioned by a federal probation officer in 2006 about who was to blame for his troubled son's disappearance, according to court records.
Investigators have previously theorized that the elder Cirillo, who was estranged from his son, approved the murder because assaulting a made member of the Mafia carries the penalty of death. Cicale was already a wiseguy and Basciano's son was up for induction into the mob at the time.
But killing the son of a Mafioso would also be a death sentence. Massino acknowledged that he gave the order to kill Bonanno capo Gerlando "George from Canada" Sciascia - despite his fondness for the gangster - because Sciascia had murdered the son of a made man in Canada.
Massino gestured with his hand like a gun when he asked Basciano: "Do we have anything to do with that [Nicholas Cirillo's murder]?"
"Absolutely not. C'mon," Basciano shot back.
That was apparently good enough for Massino, who noted that a wiseguy could get killed for lying to his boss about a murder.
Basciano told Massino he met with Dominick Cirillo about the beef and the Genovese family "came back and apologized to me."
Cirillo, who is on supervised release for a racketeering conviction, could not be reached for comment.
His daughter Ann Marie Caggiano, refused to come to the door of her waterfront home near the Throgs Neck Bridge yesterday, but spoke over the intercom.
Informed of the testimony, she said: "I really don't want to talk about that."
Yesterday, Bonanno turncoat James "Big Louie" Tartaglione was asked about the ramifications of killing a made man's son: "You're liable to start a war between families," he said.
After Nicholas Cirillo vanished, there was no war.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/tape-in-vinny-gorgeous-trial-reveals.html

The FBI is pursuing a murder case against one-time Genovese boss Dominick "Quiet Dom" Cirillo for allegedly ordering the Mother's Day murder of his son, the Daily News has learned.
Renewed interest in the son's 2004 disappearance follows tesimony from ex-Bonanno boss-turned-informer Joseph Massino that the low-key Cirillo signed the death warrant for drug-addled 41-year-old Nicholas.
The younger Cirillo - whose body was never found - disappeared two weeks after a Bronx street fight with Bonanno soldier Dominick Cicale and second-generation gangster Vincent Basciano Jr.
Sources said Cirillo, who had a history of drug abuse, was high on crack during the scuffle.
"There was concern the kid [Nicholas] was out of control and he was going to cause problems for the [Genovese] family," a source told The News.
The FBI believes it has identified the mob hit men who carried out the contract and is confident the Bonanno family was not responsible.
Nicholas was estranged from his old man, an ex-boxer and respected Genovese elder who served on the family's ruling panel when longtime boss Vincent "Chin" Gigante was jailed.
Although his fight was with the Bonannos, his execution was handled by the Genovese clan - and approved by his father, the source confirmed.
"That came from Dom," Bonanno acting boss Vincent "Vinny Gorgeous" Basicano Sr. told Massino in a secretly taped 2005 jailhouse chat.
"Did we have anything to do with that?" asked Massino, waving his hand like it was a gun.
"Absolutely not," Basciano replied.
A wiseguy taking out his own progeny, while extraordinarily rare, is not completely unknown in mob lore.
Legendary Colombo underboss John "Sonny" Franzese considered whacking his ne'er-do-well namesake for snitching - but ultimately spared him.
A late Gambino capo was suspected of sanctioning his son's murder, although the feds could never confirm it.
Most mob fathers usually take one of two approaches with their sons: steering them clear of the business, or inviting them to join in.
Joseph "JoJo" Corozzo's son, Joseph Jr., became a defense lawyer, but far more are lured into "The Life" - from Joe Bonanno's son Bill in the '60s to John Gotti's son John in the '90s.

http://www.fivefamiliesnyc.com/2011/04/fbi-pursuing-murder-case-against-one.html


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: Dapper_Don] #683703
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Until they find a body, who's to say that he wasn't shipped off to Mars to live? whistle


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683711
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thats all media bullshit.vinny did it on the 'sneak'. then he 'cut his ties' figuritvely speaking.

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U think VB did.it sit

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: meffaboston] #683725
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This reminds me of how the mafioso Giuseppe Di Bella from Canicattì in Sicily had his son killed because he was a communist and a suspected informant. They should be called "Men of dishonor". But Di Bella was killed at least. I hope Quite Dom meets the same end if it really was him.


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683726
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meff,you got a p.m.

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
thats all media bullshit.vinny did it on the 'sneak'. then he 'cut his ties' figuritvely speaking.
I think im Gunna need some more convincing before I believe that, Dom figuratively speaking was a powerhouse even compared to Vinny B and I think that thier is no way that they killed the I'd without Doms permission let alone at all. I think this was the Genovese cleaning up shop personally

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Originally Posted By: sitonmyface11
thats all media bullshit.vinny did it on the 'sneak'. then he 'cut his ties' figuritvely speaking.
I think im Gunna need some more convincing before I believe that, Dom figuratively speaking was a powerhouse even compared to Vinny B and I think that thier is no way that they killed the I'd without Doms permission let alone at all. I think this was the Genovese cleaning up shop personally


'cleaning house'?what part of doms business was he involved?is this nick cirillo the union boss? or nick cirillo the construction magnate?lol.give me a break,it was ego.plain and simple.

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: Dapper_Don] #683813
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whoa.... really? that's friggin cold blooded.

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #683816
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Basciano spoke with Massino in 2005 right after he rat?

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: gamms] #683820
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[/quote]I think im Gunna need some more convincing before I believe that, Dom figuratively speaking was a powerhouse even compared to Vinny B and I think that thier is no way that they killed the I'd without Doms permission let alone at all. I think this was the Genovese cleaning up shop personally [/quote]

I agree 100%


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He didn't OK the hit on his son. I was told that was bullshit from a source who is from Queens and knows his family.

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Surprised they still havnt found the body in this day in age. And the Ralph Coppola guy. Deff professional hits. They Springfield crew had some guy burried from 04 to 2010 when Anthony a rolled. Think art nigro was in some type of high position in 04.

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But nigro couldn't be higher the qd.

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And checked the other guys site he got a link to a dominic c interview. OK read. Says Vinny gorgeous we jimmy berks heist money

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Yeah I was completely wrong on that post from two years ago

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dom is pure cosa nostra..he lost a son, if o.k.ed it or not still tough to take..if anyone killed his son without permission and he knew who they were, dom would lose all his credibility if he did not order the guys killed..how could you respect a guy with that power who does not use it to revenge a sneak murder..you would be labeled a dog..

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: bronx] #807556
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Originally Posted By: bronx
he lost a son, if o.k.ed it or not still tough to take..

The guy hasn't been the same since. No one in that house has.


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #807557
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dom is a great guy, close to chin forever..no rumor i have heard dom lost his position or creds. maybe its not for the world to know..

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remember..jimmy brown had his adopted son killed..

Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: bronx] #807560
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Originally Posted By: bronx
dom is a great guy, close to chin forever..no rumor i have heard dom lost his position or creds. maybe its not for the world to know..

I've been telling people here for at least two or three years that he's reigned it in quite a bit. But a lot of people have a hard time believing that these guys retire (or at least semi-retire).

Dom's never at the place by the Pelham Bay station anymore, yet the guy from North Jersey/Rockland is there constantly. And he's not making that commute for nothing. You do the math wink.


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Re: Quiet Dom Cirillo [Re: southend] #807561
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Guys like Cirillo who are over 75 can't possibly be full time gangster. Where would they get the energy at that age?


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interesting pizza, he has to be 80 years old , he had a great ride, don't blame him for taking a back seat..thanks for that tid bit.

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