camarel, we no doubt have a difference of opinion. as to the first lastarza fight. rockys fight before him was with carmine vingo whom rocky almost killed, he never fought again, and wound up an invalid. it affected him greatly in the first fight with roland. the second fight he destroyed him. ezzard Charles did kill a man in the ring you are correct, however he was and remains vastly underated, in their second fight Charles cut rockys nose off. rocky came back to his corner in the 8th round and his corner {trainer charley goldman } and was told " there going to stop it rock you gotta knock him out" he went out and koed Charles. if you have any doubt of his great punching power please view on u tube the first Walcott fight. 13th round.