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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: Its_da_Jackeeettttttt] #808731
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Originally Posted By: Its_da_Jackeeettttttt
I think the six day layoff will kill any momentum the Royals had. The Rockies took a similar path in 2007 -- won a do-or-die game, then swept the Division Series and the Championship Series. Then they sat idle for a week, and looked lost in the World Series.


Have they always had that long of a break between the Championship series and World series or is it because it was a quick series they have longer to wait?

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It looks like that's the downfall of clinching too quickly. In 1985, the LCS was extended to seven games, and there were only six instances of LCS sweeps:

1988 Oakland over Boston
1990 Oakland over Boston
1995 Atlanta over Cincinnati
2006 Detroit over Oakland
2007 Colorado over Arizona
2012 Detroit over New York

Out of the six teams that swept the LCS, only one won the World Series.

In 1988, Oakland clinched on a Sunday, and the World Series started the following Saturday. Oakland lost the World Series 4-1.

In 1990, Oakland clinched on a Wednesday, and the World Series started the following Tuesday. Oakland was swept.

In 1995, Atlanta clinched on a Saturday, and the World Series started the following Saturday. Atlanta won the World Series in six games.

In 2006, Detroit clinched on a Saturday, and the World Series started the following Saturday. Detroit lost the World Series 4-1.

In 2007, Colorado clinched on a Monday, and the World Series started the following Wednesday. Colorado was swept.

In 2012, Detroit clinched on a Thursday, and the World Series started the following Wednesday. Detroit was swept.

Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #808760
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I'd love to see the Royals pull this off... but I think they are finally playing a legit team with an amazing playoff toughness about them.

With all due respect to the Orioles and Angels neither team had great starting pitching or a tenth of the winning pedigree that these Giants do.

The lay off probably doesnt help either. A team this hot wants to play the game yesterday.

Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: pizzaboy] #808773
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
But I have a feeling the Giants are going to steamroll the Royals in the World Series. Just a hunch.

I made this post before last night's game and I'm sticking to it. Giants in five.


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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #808818
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pb. bobby thomsens hr in 1951 was the greatest hr in bb history. giants fans went nuts. what a great place ny was in the 50s dodgers, giants, yankees, I hated barry bonds also. well, I gotta go with the royals, you know [team of destiny] like the 69 mets.



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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: Binnie_Coll] #808824
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Can't complain Orioles and Buck out....still blame him for 1995 not using Mariano for more than 2/3 inn game five vs Sea. Brought in black jack McDowell...wtf...Mattinglys last game...


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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #809429
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Hunter Pence looks like the other robber (not Pesci) from Home Alone

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Originally Posted By: goombah
Hunter Pence looks like the other robber (not Pesci) from Home Alone

Daniel Stern, who is ironically a HUGE baseball fan.

He wrote that movie "Rookie of the Year" with Gary Busey. Played a small part in it, too. Cute movie smile.


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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #809506
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Game 1 of the World Series was a dud. KC was out of it by the middle of the 1st inning. SF tattooed Shields and took the crowd right out of the game. If KC loses Game 2, this thing ends in 4 games.

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Originally Posted By: goombah
Game 1 of the World Series was a dud. KC was out of it by the middle of the 1st inning. SF tattooed Shields and took the crowd right out of the game. If KC loses Game 2, this thing ends in 4 games.


October 16th:

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
But I have a feeling the Giants are going to steamroll the Royals in the World Series. Just a hunch.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: pizzaboy] #809531
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: goombah
Game 1 of the World Series was a dud. KC was out of it by the middle of the 1st inning. SF tattooed Shields and took the crowd right out of the game. If KC loses Game 2, this thing ends in 4 games.


October 16th:

Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
But I have a feeling the Giants are going to steamroll the Royals in the World Series. Just a hunch.


"I could be like the General Manager of a baseball team. Or a color man. You know how I'm always making those interesting comments?"

Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: MaryCas] #809535
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there are 6 games to go. k.c has been a miracle team
in all these playoff games. get ready for some more k,c. miracles.



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Re: MLB - 2014 [Re: Binnie_Coll] #809545
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there are 6 games to go. k.c has been a miracle team
in all these playoff games. get ready for some more k,c. miracles.

If they don't win tonight they get swept.


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well, remember the miracle mets of 1969. it aint over yet p.b.



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I really don't have a dog in this fight but my guy Jake Peavy pitches for SF tonight. Hated to see my White Sox trade him away but I will root for him especially if it fattens up Pizzaboy's escarole rubber banded in his pocket!

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down go the giants 7-2. go royals!!



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Yup, now we have ourselves a World Series smile.


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I heard today that game 1 is the lowest rated Game 1 in World Series history. Oh, the state of baseball is suffering. In ten years there will be about 10% Americans playing the game. Americas past time is becoming a victim of cyber games and television $$. I heard an expression today that I never paid attention to - drop-ins. e.g."and that home run was sponsored by AT&T....". Every camera shop has a corporate logo in the background. America's past time is truly about making money and that ideal has taken over the game.


Whoever exalts himself will be humbled, whoever humbles himself will be exalted - Matthew 23:12
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Here's an interesting article on the death of baseball, which has been dying a slow death since 1868:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-de...cline-articles/

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Originally Posted By: MaryCas
I heard today that game 1 is the lowest rated Game 1 in World Series history. Oh, the state of baseball is suffering. In ten years there will be about 10% Americans playing the game. Americas past time is becoming a victim of cyber games and television $$. I heard an expression today that I never paid attention to - drop-ins. e.g."and that home run was sponsored by AT&T....". Every camera shop has a corporate logo in the background. America's past time is truly about making money and that ideal has taken over the game.

Tragic. Honestly. Just tragic.


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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
pb. bobby thomsens hr in 1951 was the greatest hr in bb history. giants fans went nuts. what a great place ny was in the 50s dodgers, giants, yankees, I hated barry bonds also. well, I gotta go with the royals, you know [team of destiny] like the 69 mets.


Not a fan of Baseball myself, but i've enjoyed following the History of the Game; so i had to look up this "greatest hr in bb history". Of course the guy was born in Glasgow cool .

Only joking of course he moved to the States when he was two and it seems that the HR was actually bad for him since it was all he's remembered for, even though he apparently had 8 Twenty HR seasons.

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pb. bobby thomsens hr in 1951 was the greatest hr in bb history. giants fans went nuts. what a great place ny was in the 50s dodgers, giants, yankees, I hated barry bonds also. well, I gotta go with the royals, you know [team of destiny] like the 69 mets.


Not a fan of Baseball myself, but i've enjoyed following the History of the Game; so i had to look up this "greatest hr in bb history". Of course the guy was born in Glasgow cool .

Only joking of course he moved to the States when he was two and it seems that the HR was actually bad for him since it was all he's remembered for, even though he apparently had 8 Twenty HR seasons.

Thomspson grew up right here in New York, on Staten Island. He was a natural for this city. And he did fine after retirement, Cam. He and Ralph Branca were always in demand at MLB sponsored events and outings.

About twenty years ago I bid to play with them in a foursome at a Teamster golf outing up at Westchester Country Club, so I got to play with them and my Dad. My Dad was thrilled, of course. But I was pretty awed myself. Two nicer guys you never met. Bobby Valentine was there, too, that day. This was before he came back to manage the Mets, though. He's Branca's son-in-law. He's a nice guy, too, even though he does come across as a jerk on television sometimes.



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yeah, cam it was one for the books, n.y. was the center of the world, when it came to baseball in those days.

go royals!



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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Camarel
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pb. bobby thomsens hr in 1951 was the greatest hr in bb history. giants fans went nuts. what a great place ny was in the 50s dodgers, giants, yankees, I hated barry bonds also. well, I gotta go with the royals, you know [team of destiny] like the 69 mets.


Not a fan of Baseball myself, but i've enjoyed following the History of the Game; so i had to look up this "greatest hr in bb history". Of course the guy was born in Glasgow cool .

Only joking of course he moved to the States when he was two and it seems that the HR was actually bad for him since it was all he's remembered for, even though he apparently had 8 Twenty HR seasons.

Thomspson grew up right here in New York, on Staten Island. He was a natural for this city. And he did fine after retirement, Cam. He and Ralph Branca were always in demand at MLB sponsored events and outings.

About twenty years ago I bid to play with them in a foursome at a Teamster golf outing up at Westchester Country Club, so I got to play with them and my Dad. My Dad was thrilled, of course. But I was pretty awed myself. Two nicer guys you never met. Bobby Valentine was there, too, that day. This was before he came back to manage the Mets, though. He's Branca's son-in-law. He's a nice guy, too, even though he does come across as a jerk on television sometimes.



As i've already said i'm not a fan of Baseball, but i'm really interested in the history of it; your post about your Dad being a NY Giants fan before they moved to SF, reignited my interest in it so thanks.

I pretty much went into the deep end and started reading certain Baseball forums, an interesting thread that i came across on one was named something like: "Baseball History you personally witnessed". Some guy claimed that he witnessed a Rookie Greg Maddux, strikeout Mike Schmidt. This is the comment and link to the thread.

http://www.baseball-fever.com/showthread...-It-quot-Thread

In 1987 I was off work for most of the summer on a health-related issue. Although I was a Chicago White Sox fan, I went to a lot of Cub day games that year. The one I remember most was a game with the Phillies. I was sitting in the second row directly behind home plate. It was a weekday afternoon game in late September, and the Cubs were in last place, so good seats were easy to come by. Late in the game, the Phillies sent up Mike Schmidt to pinch hit. He wasn't in the starting lineup that day.

The Cubs' pitcher was a rookie who looked impossibly young and scrawny to be in the big leagues, but he struck out Schmidt on three pitches that darted away from him at the last possible moment. Schmidt just dropped his bat on the ground and stood in the batters' box staring out at the mound. I'd never seen such a nasty curve from such a raw rookie. I mean this kid looked like the batboy. His name was Greg Maddux and I knew that day I'd seen something special.


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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
yeah, cam it was one for the books, n.y. was the center of the world, when it came to baseball in those days.

go royals!


Well they did have 3 of the Pennant contenders for the first 50 years of the WS, in the B Dodgers, and NY Giants and Yankees. The last 50 years has been California dominated; with the success of the LA Dodgers, Oaklank Athletics, Angels and now the SF Giants.

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no, it hasn't been all California dominated, the Yankees, the red sox, the cardinals, Baltimore, Philadelphia. those teams you mentioned from 1964 to 2014, have won 10 world championships I believe.



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Originally Posted By: Binnie_Coll
no, it hasn't been all California dominated, the Yankees, the red sox, the cardinals, Baltimore, Philadelphia. those teams you mentioned from 1964 to 2014, have won 10 world championships I believe.


Dominated may have been a strong word to use, but yes 10 in the last 50 years is a major achievement for any State other than NY State which has had 9 over the last 50 years; in Baseball. The Royals-Giants game is the 110th Series, the fact that the Yankees alone one 18 of the first 60 World Series' not to mention the NY Giants or Brooklyn Dodgers wins.

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oh, yeah I see you've done your homework now,the Yankees have won the most world series, and I believe the cardinals are second in most series won.


I grew up in L.A. and we had the triple a pacific coast league. until 1958, there was no major league team west of st. Louis. and 5 cities had 2 teams each up until 1953. and only 8 teams in each league. so the east dominated baseball for over 5o years!



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Originally Posted By: Its_da_Jackeeettttttt
Here's an interesting article on the death of baseball, which has been dying a slow death since 1868:

http://grantland.com/the-triangle/the-de...cline-articles/



Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: MaryCas
I heard today that game 1 is the lowest rated Game 1 in World Series history. Oh, the state of baseball is suffering. In ten years there will be about 10% Americans playing the game. Americas past time is becoming a victim of cyber games and television $$. I heard an expression today that I never paid attention to - drop-ins. e.g."and that home run was sponsored by AT&T....". Every camera shop has a corporate logo in the background. America's past time is truly about making money and that ideal has taken over the game.

Tragic. Honestly. Just tragic.


My opinion is that Bud Selig has done a lot to kill baseball. More specifically, Bud Selig's greed. He has placated sponsors and gone for the quick buck rather than try to develop the next generation of fans. For those old enough to remember, Selig was initally an interim commissioner in the early 90s. Unfortunately, his stay has lasted nearly a quarter century.

When I was growing up, MLB playoffs were on TV in the afternoon when I came home from school. As a kid, baseball was my favorite sport and I got to see many games both in-person and on TV. But now, despite some Divisional round games starting at 5:00 p.m. EST, most postseason games start at 8:00 p.m. during the weekday. Why? Because TV sponsors can charge more money in primetime. While this is directed at today's consumer, it is alienating the 10 year old kid who may love baseball but 1) can't stay up late during the school year and 2) is not in position financially to be a customer for another 8-10 years. It's completely short-term thinking by Selig and MLB.

This cumulative effect leaves far fewer kids interested in baseball. So we are seeing the results of declining attendance, rapidly lower TV ratings, and less interest in America's pasttime.

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goombah, to many teams doesn't help, and the way the players jump from team to team, a kid cant identify with a

home town star, he could be gone in a year or two.
to many playoff games, salaries to high, the main thing that

hurt the game was the steroid use. selig should have declared
a " steroid era" and banned all the records in that era,

especially bonds 73 home runs. everyone in the world knows he
was juiced to the gills, the year he set the record. and I

don't have words to express my distaste of the fraud. a-rod.



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