Probably. Chalky lost everything thanks to Narcisse. I hope to see him get payback this final season (I like the character of Chalky).

I do too SC. My guess is Narcisse is going to unleash some heavy duty violence in Harlem on Luciano and Seigel that is going to be very bloody. Chalky will rise again and kill Narcisse when he joins forces with Luciano and Seigel. Whatever happens, this is a really good show too bad it is ending,

Im wondering where chalky plays into these final episodes and gillian as well. We are down to the end. What is the significance of Nucky's flashbacks?

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Who will Gillian write to? Tommy? Maybe tell him the whole truth?
Is chalkys only purpose to exact revenge on Narcisse? We all know the basic story for Luciano, Capone, Lansky etc. But this is about Nuckys story getting closure. Whats the f**kin story with Van Alden. Basically where do all these tie into Nuckys story.
is it going to be Nucky goes straight and thats the end and we get closure on these other plots. or
This may be a weak ending for the series but it would bring it around full circle: Gillian contacts tommy darmody and tells him the whole story we have seen. Death of his father and all that crap with nucky setting her up with the commodore to basically get raped and obvs nucks involvement with his father Jimmy`s death. SO the flashbacks keep occuring and moving along with the action... Nucky fails to secure his legitimacy, Chalky gets revenge on narcisse, Maybe even saves Daughter(Narcisse`s singer slave or whatever) from him, if shes even still around, Luciano embarks on his modernization and rule over organized crime, capone gets capowned, and nucky flashes back to memories of young gillian and how he leads her to the Commodore in the past and nucky s greeted by some scrappy looking teen pointing a gun to his face all like. THIS IS FOR MY FATHER FOOL !!!!!! POPPED by tommy. Will Eli ever meet back up with his family, or wil margaret get screwed over these and van aldens are a bit harder to speculate but what would you guys think if that ended like that ... this is just some of the crap I have been thinking of as I watch this show, I always end up speculating a shows ending esp in the final season... Let me know what you think and hey..
Who was that scrappy lookin kid mickey doyle recruited to load trucks

I think Eli might get caught up in some federal prosecution and get saved by his son who is working for the federal government.

SC, since you are the BEIinC (Boardwalk Empire Interpreter in Chief), could you please explain what the hell was going on between Nucky and Joe Kennedy at the end, when Nucky got drunk?

TB, I was confused by a few things in that episode. One of the things was trying to figure out what Joe Kennedy was getting at with questioning Nucky about his motivations for being in the booze business. I can only guess it was a mind-fuck game by Kennedy and when Nucky took the bait and gave Joe an answer (about his motivation) Kennedy was pleased and went on his way to screw around with the singer.

That envelope that Nucky got (near the beginning of the episode when he was talking to Sally in Cuba on the phone) bothers me. I really have to watch it again but it looked like the envelope was addressed in pencil making me think it came from Gillian (who got stationery and pencil in the prior episode). Or, could it have come from "Mabel", the young girl on the beach in the flashback episodes?

The season is already over? How many episodes were there? I have HBO didn't watch any, guess they didn't really advertise it as much as they use too or I just stopped caring

Mabel is nuckys first wife who is dead as explained in the first seasons at SC

Oh, OK. Thanks!

Im waiting for it to end fully and one day I'll sit down and watch the last season

I wonder when they'll cover Capone's demise and Maranzano's murder.

I also thought that the murder by Capone of one of his men was totally unnecessary and was just plain gratuitous.

By the way, someone was looking through some criminal files with pictures. Whose was doing the looking and whose pictures were they?

The guy in the hall outside Capone's suite that Van Alden told that he cr@pped his pants, was doing the looking.
He is apparently an undercover fed.
The wanted poster he was looking for (and found) was Van Alden's.

OMG, the guy Capone beat to death in the end (forgot his name). Holy crap. Did that "really" happen in real life AND was Capone really that gruesome? A slasher?




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TIS, I'm not aware of his doing that, but, yes, he was that gruesome.

Loved the throwbacks to previous seasons in this episode. Did anybody else notice though that Capone had no recollection of Jimmy Darmody at all? I found that interesting.

Yeah I noticed that too. I know Capone did a hell of a lot between those years but him and jimmy were fairly friendly, put a lot of work in together, he'll it was jimmy who discovered that capones son was deaf. Maybe if lucky had called him 'jimmy Irish' it would have rung a bell lol.

The real-life Capone was nowhere near that violent.

He killed two people in NYC before arriving in Chicago ca. 1920. Once there, the only man he killed with his own hands was the guy who slapped around Jack Guzik (seen in an episode a couple of years ago). He baseball-batted Scalise, Anselm and Giunta, who betrayed him, but they were still breathing when he finished. The coup de grace was delivered by one of his bodyguards--some say it was Tony Accardo.

Al CAPONE killed as many as 15 to 20 men in his time they killed loads of guys with baseball bats as well as guns capone and tony Accardo

What is your source of information on this claim?

from books i have read few the years and on the net they killed a lot we will never know how many but i think that a close number

Not sure exactly when Capone's mind started slipping due to the syphilis but maybe this was to show the early stages?

Watching now. The young adult Nucky. LOL. Nucky right down to the teeth. ha ha.




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Agreed.The casting was a work of genius. The only thing that amused me more was the dorky uniform that the deputies wore in those days. Don't know why,but I couldn't help thinking about Pilgrims every time I saw it.

It really was uncanny how much that actor reminded me of Steve Buscemi. That aside, the rest of the episode was a bit confusing. What the hell is with the storyline on Gillian and the quack doctor performing crazy surgeries?

Hadda laugh when Van Alden was telling Eli that he refused to live in fear but jumped up like he was bitten in the ass when his wife called him to the dinner table.

And Chalky finding his daughter in Narcisse's house. Uh oh, I think he's gonna go postal on Narcisse (and I want a front-row seat to watch).

SC,

It ended up being a good (but I agree confusing)episode. Read this summary story and it'll help fill in the blanks.

Oh, and OMG what the hell kind of mental hospital is Jillian in? I would be looking for a way out as well.

http://artsbeat.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/1...s&_r=1&


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For those in the area: A few paragraphs down, in the article I posted, mentions Nucky's dinner with his boss at Dock's Oyster House on Atlantic Ave. They said it still exists. You guys been there?

It's interesting that Nucky is set to take on Luciano just as Luciano is about to reach the pinnacle of underworld power.

I wonder what was Torrio's benefit when it came to trying to wipe out Maranzano/Thompson.

I believe the girl in Narcisse's house wasn't Chalky's daughter,but rather Daughter Maitland,the singer that Chalky was involved with and that Narcisse beat the hell out of.

That's what I thought but I thought Daughter was killed???



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Thanks for the link but it didn't clear up anything for me. If anything, I'm more confused now.

I did not consider that Marranzano was killed in the episode. I think the show's writers have been fairly accurate with real life events being portrayed. Marranzano was killed in his office in September of the year they are now portraying (1931). OK, one thing made me think it might have been September - when Johnny Torrio was sitting next to the fan and talking with Nucky it was mentioned how unusually hot it was for that time of year. That would mean it was not summer. Now, we know that Nucky traveled back from Havana since the prior episode but did the whole summer pass in the interim?? Anyway, I didn't even consider that Marranzano was dead and this link's author suggests he MAY be dead (more confusing now).

I still laugh every time I see Van Alden's face - he always looks like he is smelling something unpleasant.

Ooops, you're right. She was not Nucky's daughter.