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I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 09:53 AM
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It's been a while since I walked around the city and I'm actually finding myself missing the days of filth and craziness. This place doesn't seem to have character anymore. It's certainly cleaner and safer, but I kinda miss the old days. Where's all the crazy people and peep shows? Nobody is pissing behind a dumpster. Everyone is clean cut with lots of money. This isn't the same place I grew up in. It might sound weird, but I miss grimy NY. Is it just me?
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:20 AM
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Have you read ANY of my posts about gentrification? I don't have the energy, and people are probably tired of me posting about it anyway. But that New York City is gone and it's not coming back. And what are you, in your thirties, right? I'm not breaking your balls because you know I like you. But the changes started when you were just a kid. Plus, you didn't really grow up here anyway. Just imagine if you lived here all your life and you couldn't afford to live in a neighborhood where your family dwelled for three generations. Such unfortunates DO EXIST. Missing out on a peep show is small potatoes by comparison (but I feel your pain there, too ).
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:23 AM
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Where's all the crazy people? In the Bronx.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:24 AM
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Where's all the crazy people? In the Bronx. No we're not. Yes we are. No we're not. Yes we are.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:29 AM
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Have you read ANY of my posts about gentrification? I don't have the energy, and people are probably tired of me posting about it anyway. But that New York City is gone and it's not coming back. And what are you, in your thirties, right? I'm not breaking your balls because you know I like you. But the changes started when you were just a kid. Plus, you didn't really grow up here anyway. Just imagine if you lived here all your life and you couldn't afford to live in a neighborhood where your family dwelled for three generations. Such unfortunates DO EXIST. Missing out on a peep show is small potatoes by comparison (but I feel your pain there, too ). I did live here for years before moving upstate. Even after that I spent weekends and vacations here before moving back to queens for a while in my 20's. And yeah I saw your posts all the time but it's weird seeing it in person. I just wish there was one little section to remind me of the older days.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:35 AM
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Ya gotta remember that I have avoided manhattan for many years. Most of my time in the city in the last decade or so has been in Queens and brooklyn. So when I walk around manhattan it's unfamiliar. My last memories were of a much more seedy place
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:44 AM
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I just wish there was one little section to remind me of the older days. As you get older you'll learn that you can never go back. That's exactly right. That's the main reason I get a little impatient with younger people here when they start to lament the fact that "Old New York" is gone. Because, first of all, they've never even seen it. And second of all, it's like SC says, the realization that you can't "go back" only comes with the passing of time. It's really about aging and loss in general. Not just about yearning for the "old neighborhood."
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:51 AM
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Well I'm a little younger but not so young. I think I was probably the last generation to see 'old NY' before it completely changed. Granted I was young, but it was the last years my father was around here and right before a lot of big life changes. So I guess those years stuck with me more.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 10:52 AM
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Well I'm a little younger but not so young. I think I was probably the last generation to see 'old NY' before it completely changed. Granted I was young, but it was the last years my father was around here and right before a lot of big life changes. So I guess those years stuck with me more. I wasn't talking about you, buddy. I know where you're from .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 12:20 PM
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By the way, is the new WTC opened yet?
It's completed. I don't know if it's open to the public since I haven't tried to go.. One question I have is where the hell are these young kids coming up with the rent money to live here? It's overrun with these early 20's hipsters. Are their jobs so great or are mom and dad just that rich?
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 12:27 PM
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It's overrun with these early 20's hipsters. Are their jobs so great or are mom and dad just that rich? We have some of them in the Village and in our Astoria property. And in my experience, I've gotten checks directly from their parents MANY times. The only saving grace is, most of them only stick around for a couple of years before the novelty wears off.
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 12:32 PM
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By the way, is the new WTC opened yet?
It's completed. I don't know if it's open to the public since I haven't tried to go.. One question I have is where the hell are these young kids coming up with the rent money to live here? It's overrun with these early 20's hipsters. Are their jobs so great or are mom and dad just that rich? Take it from someone who is in the same age bracket. People this age are not successful. Having money you got from mummy and daddy does not equate to making it. Just foolish, needy, insecure people that feel pressured into showing how great their lives are because social media puts them on some pedestal 24/7/365.
I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 05:06 PM
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I wanted the authentic NY experience! Visit the outer boroughs (and Williamsburg and Park Slope don't count anymore ).
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/27/14 05:09 PM
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The Bronx and East Ny is a good starting point. You should clarify that to parts of the Bronx. Country Club and Throggs Neck boast some of the highest property values and lowest crime rates in all of the outer boroughs. And don't forget Riverdale, where a mansion overlooking the Hudson will run you into the millions .
"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/28/14 12:36 AM
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As young adults OUR GENERATION wanted to prove to our parents that we didn't need their help. Yea we struggled we worked hard did things the way we wanted them done, were broke at times ,yet we made it! That type of attitude is long gone. Oh please. Times have changed completely! Granted, my parents were very frugal and saved their money, but they also moved to the suburbs and sold house after house for more & more money. This is how the previous generation became so well off . . . . As for our generation, we are all perpetually indebted because of student loans! I will probably retire as a debtor, unless of course I sell-off the properties that I will inherit from my parents . . . . This is the simple truth
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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09/28/14 05:43 PM
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To get back to the original post:
Aons ago, when I was 10 or 11 and lived in Brooklyn, my friends and I would just jump on a subway and ride to Times Square when we had nothing else to do. Just walked around, took in the sights, came back 3 hours later--parents didn't even know we went. Never felt in danger because we were too young/dumb to know better.
When I was 15, I had an after-school job as a messenger boy for the old New York Post, which was on West Street in lower Manhattan (years before the World Trade Center was built). Arrived there about 3:30 and delivered and picked up advertising copy at ad agencies all around the city until 9 or 9 p.m. Great, exciting job for a kid--running all around the city at night, very much different than daytime--a real adventure. Times Square was getting kinda edgy by then. I carried a knife, to make me feel "safer" (as if it would have made a difference); but except for getting cruised by an occasional "chicken hawk," never had a problem.
Worked in Manhattan from 1959 through 1971, then moved to and worked in suburban NJ from '72 on, so we missed the really bad years of NYC's decline. When we visited the city, it was a never-ending blitz of dirt, aggressive panhandlers, hustlers, noise and sirens.
In '97, I took NJ Transit to Penn Station and walked all the way up to a big hospital on 100th Street and Fifth Avenue to visit a sick aunt. I was amazed at the improvement in the city: the homeless and the panhandlers were gone, the streets were clean, it was relatively quiet, and it felt completely safe. In the intervening years, Disney had transformed Times Square into something sanitized, like Disneyland for adults. I suppose it had less character than it did in the late Fifties (cheap bars and restaurants, what passed for X-rated movies and shops, crumbling theaters, street hustlers, overpriced souvenir shops), but I just consigned that era to nostalgia.
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Re: I'm in Manhattan and...
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12/16/14 10:14 PM
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As young adults OUR GENERATION wanted to prove to our parents that we didn't need their help. Yea we struggled we worked hard did things the way we wanted them done, were broke at times ,yet we made it! That type of attitude is long gone. Oh please. Times have changed completely! Granted, my parents were very frugal and saved their money, but they also moved to the suburbs and sold house after house for more & more money. This is how the previous generation became so well off . . . . As for our generation, we are all perpetually indebted because of student loans! I will probably retire as a debtor, unless of course I sell-off the properties that I will inherit from my parents . . . . This is the simple truth I couldn't have said it better myself !
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