Again, you're refusing to admit that you are wrong - we funded rebels against the Soviets...why don't look up when the Taliban was formed, and THEN come back to this discussion.

I didn't insult you...I'm commenting on your ideas.

Yeah, since we even knew who the hell Osama Bin Laden, an Afghani grunt soldier was. He wasn't a terrorist leader, he was a grunt, one of thousands who fought the Soviets. He wasn't some political leader. I'm sure what some little peon in the Afghani army fighting the Soviets would be of major interest to US security...give me a break. :rolleyes:

Right, since it was COMMUNISM that was trying to imperialistically take over their country.


Yes, I know, which was denoted by my argument being in past-tense (i.e., I said "Stalin had been murdering his own people!).


:rolleyes:

So you're saying as long as it doesn't affect us, we should not get involved in something, and respect it's soveriengty?

Well bloody hell! I'm sure there are alot of Jews who were glad we kicked some ass at Auswitcz, even if it didn't affect us.

My point is that I refuse to sit by and accept something I feel is derogatory to society and against the common good and beliefs of the American people and her citizens.


You're the one who doesn't think the American people can make the right choice, since you're against privitization of social security.

And who are you to say whom my friends are? Like you even know.

Oh, my, we're going to compare insults now? Goodness gracious me, we'd better put the kid gloves back on.



Listen, sweetness, you're point didn't revolve around whether life could be independant outside the womb...if I recall, you said:

If one cannot live on their own, then they're not that of a human.

You're implying that if a "fetus" cannot be independent, then it's not human, which I disproved.

Earlier in the thread, you talked about how independance is equated with life, and that once a child is born, life begins. Yet I countered your argument with firm science facts, stating how an organism that carries on symbiosis, or an bacteria, parasite, or, SURPRISINGLY, pre-natal children, are all alive and carrying out cellular metabolism.

I didn't ignore your "point." I've matched it throughout the entire thread. And consequently, I've answered your question many times before, as I have aforementioned.

Maybe you need to come to grips with reality - that your "choice" you seem to care so vehemently about kills a human being. Yes, a human being. Even as a zygote, it still has the same genetic makeup as you and I do (albeit allele differentiation in hair color, eye color, et al). Last time I checked, organisms have unique genetic codes. And an embryo carries on life functions...carrying of life functions, i.e. living, i.e. alive, no matter how you rationalize it. And a fetus is sentient - it's affected by what happens outside the womb, for instance, playing music stimulates brain activity, it can be harmed by alcohol and other drugs, and will respond to stimuli by moving within the uterus.

So cheers to acknowledging my point.

Regards,
Double-J