ok, this is just getting to personal. why are you guys still continueing this thread of i notice some hostility

and to answer the last point...bin laden didn't just wake up one year and hate the states, he's pretty much hated them for a while, or at least that's what a credible source like biography channel tells me. but when the american government offered weapons to defeat the soviats, he/they weren't about to say no. so you should check your facts.

"strange things happen all the time, and so it goes and so it goes. and the book says, 'we may be through with the past, but the past is not through with us'" - MAGNOLIA