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Ohhh I get it. The "minutemen" in Iraq aren't really bad people. They're freedom fighters, right?
So let me get this straight:
You think it is ok for Michael Moore to support those who behead civilians, blow up american soldiers, and torture and kill Iraqis. This is excusable because they're fighting for "freedom"
The insurgency isn't fighting to free Iraq Pat. They're fighting to destroy the United States. Don't even try to suggest the insurgents are supported by the Iraqi population. Look at the stories of Iraqis who lived in Fallujah while it was under the control of Zarqawi and his terrorist followers. Here's some of what occurred in Fallujah under the "minutemen":
"Mutilated bodies dumped on Fallujah's bombed out streets today painted a harrowing picture of eight months of rebel rule. As US and Iraqi troops mopped up the last vestiges of resistance in the city after a week of bombardment and fighting, residents who stayed on through last week's offensive were emerging and telling harrowing tales of the brutality they endured.
Flyposters still litter the walls bearing all manner of decrees from insurgent commanders, to be heeded on pain of death. Amid the rubble of the main shopping street, one decree bearing the insurgents' insignia - two Kalashnikovs propped together - and dated November 1 gives vendors three days to remove nine market stalls from outside the city's library or face execution. The pretext given is that the rebels wanted to convert the building into a headquarters for the "Mujahidin Advisory Council" through which they ran the city.
Another poster in the ruins of the souk bears testament to the strict brand of Sunni Islam imposed by the council, fronted by hardline cleric Abdullah Junabi. The decree warns all women that they must cover up from head to toe outdoors, or face execution by the armed militants who controlled the streets.
Two female bodies found yesterday suggest such threats were far from idle. An Arab woman, in a violet nightdress, lay in a post-mortem embrace with a male corpse in the middle of the street. Both bodies had died from bullets to the head. Just six metres away on the same street lay the decomposing corpse of a blonde-haired white woman, too disfigured for swift identification but presumed to be the body of one of the many foreign hostages kidnapped by the rebels. It was initially thought to be either the body of Margaret Hassan, the Dublin-born aid worker with dual British and Iraqi nationality who was kidnapped last month, or a Polish woman kidnapped two weeks ago. A Polish official said today there was no evidence to suggest that the body was that of the kidnapped Pole."
"But we were happy you did what you did [liberate the city] because Fallujah had been suffocated by the Mujahidin. Anyone considered suspicious would be slaughtered. We would see unknown corpses around the city all the time." The same story of arbitrary executions was told by another resident, found by US troops cowering in his home with his brother and his family.
"They would wear black masks, carry rocket-propelled grenades and Kalashnikovs, and search streets and alleys," said Iyad Assam, 24. "I would hear stories, about how they executed five men one day and seven another for collaborating with the Americans. They made checkpoints on the roads. They put announcements on walls banning music and telling women to wear the veil from head to toe."
It was not just pedlars of alcohol or Western videos and women deemed improperly dressed who faced the militants' wrath. Even residents who regard themselves as observant Muslims lived in fear because they did not share the puritan brand of Sunni Islam that the insurgents enforced. One devotee of a Sufi sect, followers of a mystical form of worship deemed herectical by the hardliners, told how he and other members of his order had lived in terror inside their homes for fear of retribution. "It was a very hard life. We couldn't move. We could not work," said the man sporting the white robe and skullcap prescribed by his faith. "If they had any issue with a person, they would kill him or throw him in jail."
Source: Timesonline
Look at that Pat. The "minutemen" you think are helping the Iraqis escape the boot of American imperialism are really violent thugs who have lost any support they may have had in Iraq. Could you explain to me again how it's not anti-american to equate these murderers with American minutemen?
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Double-J
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11/27/04 06:39 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 06:54 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/27/04 06:55 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/27/04 07:06 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 07:27 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/27/04 08:50 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/27/04 08:51 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 09:39 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/27/04 09:58 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 10:40 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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11/27/04 11:02 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 11:08 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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11/27/04 11:33 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 03:48 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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The Iceman
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11/28/04 07:05 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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SC
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11/28/04 07:07 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 07:25 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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The Iceman
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11/28/04 07:59 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/28/04 01:54 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 08:13 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/29/04 02:29 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/29/04 02:40 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/29/04 05:02 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/29/04 08:26 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/29/04 10:31 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/30/04 01:03 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/30/04 03:40 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 12:35 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 12:49 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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12/01/04 01:22 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 01:38 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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12/01/04 01:42 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 01:43 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 02:22 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 02:34 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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mr. soprano
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12/01/04 02:34 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:00 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:07 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 03:27 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:32 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 03:49 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:52 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 08:43 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 08:46 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 09:21 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 03:42 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 04:09 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 04:29 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 04:47 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 05:30 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 08:10 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/03/04 07:05 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/04/04 03:13 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/05/04 03:49 AM
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