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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803554
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bagman, carlo colianni? your right never heard of him, he must have been invisible, I certainly never heard him mentioned in all the books ive read on the outfit. anxious to have you post your stories. by all means do so.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803555
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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803558
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n.j capo, thank you for the posts. read them all, seems like he knew some people all right.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803568
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Murray Humphreys was pretty influential even though he wasn't made.


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: DE NIRO] #803569
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Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
Murray Humphreys was pretty influential even though he wasn't made.
yes, murray Humphreys was an extraordinary individual, with a more than modest degree of power. he was said to be the brains behind the legal aspects of the Chicago outfit. he had some way influenced justice clark in the early forties to release ricca from prison, not a small feat. he is also credited with the way to use the 5th amendment that is practiced to this day. saving hundreds of mobsters from testifying, he was indeed a huge and remarkable asset to the Chicago outfit. its said he shot himself to death in 1965.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Binnie_Coll] #803687
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Originally Posted By: DE NIRO
Murray Humphreys was pretty influential even though he wasn't made.
yes, murray Humphreys was an extraordinary individual, with a more than modest degree of power. he was said to be the brains behind the legal aspects of the Chicago outfit. he had some way influenced justice clark in the early forties to release ricca from prison, not a small feat. he is also credited with the way to use the 5th amendment that is practiced to this day. saving hundreds of mobsters from testifying, he was indeed a huge and remarkable asset to the Chicago outfit. its said he shot himself to death in 1965.


I thought he died of a heart attack..


The Mafia Is Not Primarily An Organisation Of Murderers.
First And Foremost,The Mafia Is Made Up Of Thieves.
It Is Driven By Greed And Controlled By Fear.

Between The Law And The Mafia, The Law Is Not The Most To Be Feared

"What if the Mafia were not an organization but a widespread Sicilian attitude of hostility towards the law?"

"Make Love Not War" John Lennon
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803693
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deniro, you are correct. he did die of a heart attack, I had it wrong. in 1965 3 fbi agents came to his door to arrest him, they arrested him and he arrived home 3hrs later, and collapsed of heart attack. the stress of the criminal indictments he faced no doubt contributed to his death. sorry about my misconception of his demise.....



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803708
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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803749
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gary martin, thank you for the newspaper article.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803759
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You're very welcome. And Butch Blasi is the most commonly mentioned name that is associated with the murder of Sam Giancana. The official record states: unsolved murder.

Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: GaryMartin] #803766
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Originally Posted By: GaryMartin
You're very welcome. And Butch Blasi is the most commonly mentioned name that is associated with the murder of Sam Giancana. The official record states: unsolved murder.
yes, gary im sure butch did it, my information comes from [the don} by William brashler. and also the frattiano book where johnny roseli tells frattiano, "butch did it" roselli believed it came from accardo.



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803773
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Here's something from Brashler that you might enjoy:

http://books.google.com/books?id=5ugCAAA...ana&f=false

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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803780
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thank you gary, that was a great piece. I really enjoyed that, brashler claims things were not so good under mo, I don't dispute brashler, but, many on this site swear mooney was great for Chicago. they should read this piece,



" watch what you say around this guy, he's got a big mouth" sam giancana to an outfit soldier about frank Sinatra. [ from the book "my way"
Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803783
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Roemers books on the Outfit are hot garbage

Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803784
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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803786
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For you Capone historians when Capone left Brooklyn to come to Chicago did he come alone?


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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #803831
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Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #804238
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you got any photos of him your grandfather and any stories and of the outfit members good to know more about the outfit so please tell bagman : )

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you got any photos of him your grandfather and any stories and of the outfit members good to know more about the outfit so please tell bagman : )

Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Joey_Cusack] #805530
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Originally Posted By: Joey_Cusack
Hey guys,

Let me start off by saying I'm not really all that interested in Al Capone. I'm from Illinois, so he's really the only gangster people talk about here. I just grew bored with him before I really knew anything about him.

That being said, I was reading a little about him last night. I knew the basics; Prohibition, St. Valentine's Day Massacre, "Scarface", etc. But I never knew his reign only lasted seven years. I couldn't believe that. I mean, I'm sure there a few bosses whose time lasted shorter than that, but for as big of a legend he is....I was like wow.


You're from IL so people are going to talk about him as he's more well known and first comes to mind when people think of Chicago.

Re: Alphonse Capone...wow [Re: Bagman] #805532
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Originally Posted By: Bagman
Hello guys!
I'm just sitting here reading all of your very interesting dialogue RE: Arcardo, Ricca, Mooney, and wondering how all of you missed the man behind all of them. Carlo Colianni...
Do some research boys... Every single one of these wise guys answered to Mr. Colianni. Never heard of him you say.. You bet your bottom you haven't!! Other than one article in the Chicago Papers back in 1959 or 1960 not sure about the year. How have I come to this conclusion?? Arcardo, Ricca, Prano, Cerone, Mooney, Chucky Nicolitti actually was his on-going driver. Were all at his house in Skokie IL.on any given day usually on a Sunday. Carlo Colianni was my Grandfather. Gentleman I was there most weekends and heard them all. The stories I have would not be believed. This all being said... I certainly am amused by every one's version of the old Outfit Days.


^^^
Someone's FOS and trolling, and claiming that their "grandfather" was involved in the outfit, and actually told them.

In reality if your grandfather was really involved in the outfit he would not have told you, or told you any "stories" or personal info about his work.

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