Originally posted by Double-J:

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Pat support Europe and the United Nations who fully believe in diplomacy. Yet he feels diplomacy won't work, so we should go to war with everybody. Yet somehow he thinks that going against North Korea will bring us international support?
As I said, I don't want war with anyone unless it's absolutely needed. I said I'd rather go to war with Iraq over North Korea if I was forced to pick one.

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So you want to war with the rebels then, I'm assuming.
Damn right. Why did you guys think I wanted war against the country?

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Yes, shift the money from our troops...Pat says the War on Iraq will fail, but clearly thinks we can "win" while diverting funds away from the troops. He also thinks we could solve poverty in the same way.
The war in Iraq will fail to bring democracy to the country after we leave. Poverty will never be solved,but that $225 billion certainly wouldn't hurt.

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Don't think for a second the intelligence was just ignored;
That's my point DJ. I think this intelligence was ignored. Why did it take until we were attacked to make a terror level chart or take extra measures?

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But before 9/11, we had never dealt with two things: 1.) Muslim suicide bombers 2.) an unconventional terrorist attack.
Welcome to the Middle East... :p

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Really? If they grew up in a "rough environment" (which, for the sake of the argument, you should define), the are most likely prejudiced towards crime already; ingrained in their attitudes and actions.
Rough enviroment: Mom or Dad left them and one of their parents was a drug abuser. They were forced to get a job and needed to support their family. They're unable to afford college. They turn to drug dealing and various other things. I think you have my point of view wrong here. I don't think big time drug dealers (how about Tony Montana as an example) should get looked upon. I think people just trying to savage money to live deserve more then one chance. Unfortunately, it's the other way around in our society.

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What about the millions and millions for whom it doesn't work for (who I'm sure outnumber those for whom it works for).
Which is why it needs to be a tad bit edited.

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Yes! So I can kill him now and be clear of conscious!
Um. Do you realize that these women have to live with their descision the rest of their life? I highly, highly doubt that it gets off their mind.

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Well since you're so gung ho for gay marriage and abortion, I could ask you the same question - how can you call yourself a Catholic if you support those things?
Because I don't allow my religion to impact my beliefs on the public and society. My religion is my business and my religion only comes into effect when it isn't effecting anyone else but me.

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Why don't I agree with the Catholic church on birth control? Because in some ways, I do understand their point. Birth Control is being used today in an era and society that encourages practically anonymous promiscuity. That being said, I don't see anything wrong with a husband and wife using condoms or the pill, and I'd rather see Pat "wrap it up" than to have little baby Slim Shady impersonators running around Reading, PA
So that means you supported John Kerry on promoting contraception among teens, rather then Bush's method of promoting abstinence among teens? -Pat

Originally posted by Missfifilopez:

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Honestly civilians who curse Bush and his choice to go to war with terrorism should take a step back and look at those photo's once again of 9/11 and the WTC.

What does being against Bush have to do with 'looking back?' If Saddam had anything to do with 9/11, then I'd understand your point. I support Bush 100 % on going into Afghanistan, though I think he's ignoring the situation since only 11,000 troops remain.

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I saw Mike Moore's film F9/11 and I was disgusted how unpatriotic this man was who never once served his country.
Michael Moore is patriotic and loves his country. He just loathes our government. I feel the same. Neither one of us have served either. Am I unpatriotic too?

And please, no one respond to me and say that I'm anti-US and don't support our troops. That's not true. I support our troops. I just don't support our government. -Pat

"After every dark night, there's a bright day right after that. No matter how hard it gets, stick your chest out, keep your head up, and handle it." -Tupac Shakur