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Those elections that are suppposed to be in January, right?
I don't see what's so funny (other than you apparently think you have 20/20 foresight)...again, clearly, don't you agree a leader the Iraqi people would decide would be infinitely more legitimate than a US appointed leader (not counting the current interim leader).


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We shouldn't have done ANYTHING with Saddam. He wasn't a threat.
If genocide is wrong in Sudan, and we should go in, according to you...then why shouldn't we have stopped Saddam?

Again, your hindsight is spectacular, you'd make a great Monday Morning Quarterback - intelligence pointed to Saddam having WMD's, against UN regulations, and he is a known enemy of the United States, and intelligence suggested he'd use them against the US.

I don't see how, if that information is presented to you, in retrospect with 9/11, you can just "pass it by."

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Not a chance in hell.
Thanks, Ms. Cleo. Since you know all. There is no international terror networks. Silly me.


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Because the UN (without the US) helped Sudan and Sudan rebels sign a peace treaty.
A tad too late for the corpses, eh? And how is it being enforced?

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Then you want someone who committs a crime once to be locked up for life?
As aforementioned, we're discussing your proposed system, not the current system. If we use those constraints, sure, I think felons, depending on the nature, should be removed from society.

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..that cannot live on its' own; therefore it's not a human being/person, nor is it really living.
:rolleyes:

Did you ever pick up a biology book?

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No mother and it's not there.
Really? So test tube baby's don't exist until implanted? So we're putting something that "doesn't exist" into a surrogate womb?

Again, the argument of a 1000 holes is clearly present from the Pro-Choice side.

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Not murder, abortion.
Oh, yeah..." "

Rationalize it again, Pat. It's murder. It's murder. I'm sure it makes you feel better because it's not saying murder, right? It's "abortion," as if it's some lovely procedure that doesn't harm anyone...

Tell me this, if it doesn't affect a human - what happens if a woman takes an abortion pill, and the "thing" (as you seem to want to classify it) isn't removed (or, realisticaly, is killed), and the "thing" magically transforms into a child when shot out of the womb...if it has defects and it's missing arms and legs and is severely retarded, we can't say it was because of cellular damage to the baby, because after all, it wasn't a baby until it popped out of the womb. :rolleyes:

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Tad bit edited.
Major overhaul.

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Not murder, abortion. -Pat
May God have mercy on your soul. I know I wouldn't.

Regards,
Double-J