Yet that says nothing about Clinton's second-highest defecit...which was almost $300 billion.

Thanks for the revelation! So now we need the international community?

How did we get so far without Europe?

I don't trust you. Baggins summed your argument up nicely, and frankly, it strikes a cord of redundancy. It's not common sense - you've amalgamated issues that would not make America a better place - raising taxes, arbitrarily removing the right to vote, etc.

Really?!? And where do you get this from?

Those peace protesters seem pretty vehement that they oppose war, in general. Not only that, it would be another unilateral war - your eternal contradiction.


Really? Gulf War, anyone?

And w/o public support? What about World War I, when Wilson was re-elected on the principle that he would keep us out of "Europe's War?"


Please, as I have done, cite from a refutable source.


Really? I, and apparently from the PM's I receive, alot of other people, seem to think I'm doing a fine job, thanks. Though constructive criticism is always welcome.


Gee, since he hasn't been busy with the worst terrorist attack on our soil in our nations history and a two front war.

Maybe if all you do is get blowjobs from interns all day, you can jet whenever you like.

Yet their economic principles with regards to the way they ran the government echo that of Marxist ideology. So they can "loath" whatever they want - their systems are extensions of the original communist doctrine.

Good. Maybe we're getting somewhere.

Really? I guess if you ignore trends, you can make those arguments. But if you'd have been paying attention, Medicare/Medicaid and Welfare and Social Security have been problems for decades. Not "blames soley on Bush," which would be quite convenient for your argument, if you were arguing with someone who didn't know what they were talking about (fortunately for you, you have a spectacular debate partner ).

Again, as I think the majority of people have stressed, you have a blind faith in the Social Security system that has all but received it's death knell (which will come in a few years with the continued aging of the Baby Boomers).

And why do we need all these committees? Get the fucking congressman and senators in there, and fix it! No wonders nothing gets done - bueracracy at it's finest.

Maybe not. Maybe so. If someone raped your daughter, how would you feel about it?

Now we're getting somewhere.

For the first fiscal year.

According to the U.S. Small Business Administration, over 50% of small businesses fail in the first year and 95% fail within the first five years.

Source: Business.gov

Your original statement was ambigous. "He would be a part of the lower class." Well what lower class are we talking about?

Generalizations kill debates, you know.


There are special allowances for # of dependants and such, so someone with 4 kids would get more than someone who is single.

And if he is actively pursuing employment? Yes, he will make it.

w00t. I guess John Kerry and Ted Kennedy can take their collective ball and go home, and we can stop paying their salaries, cause the world is going to end; there's no point. :rolleyes:

It's not an insult. Anyone who has any basic knowledge of economics can see you don't understand how the system works.

My comment on the "flourishing" economy was facetious, as I've said about twice now - because you said we should have more business regulation.

It is economically stupid to burden businesses in an economy such as ours in it's current status.

Again, for Christmas, someone get me a big rubber stamp that says "Sarcasm" or "Facetious: For Those Who Don't Get It" and an ink pad.

My point is that clearly, with your ideology of the penal system, offenders shouldn't even be punished. You apparently feel that, regardless of the crime (except for murder), regardless of how henious or destructive, there should be rehab and no prison.

And I clearly disagree. Where is the motivation to NOT commit a crime? "Oh man, homes, we'd better not do that - they'll give us 6 months in rehab for sure!" I see alot of dealers quivering in their boots.

Again, as Apple said, you're still young. Maybe once you get out in the real world, become a serious taxpayer, and see how Social Security really works, you'll change your tune.

Okay. Whatever class it is, it's clearly out of touch. And now we're comparing genocide? Well, maybe Saddam's genocide is NICER than Sudanian genocide. Right...

It's 0wn3d, or pwn3d, y0u 1@m3r.


Really? Whatever happens if some gay guy gives blood, and it has HIV? And it gets through the filters (as it has in the past). And you get it. How are you going to feel.

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It's like the abortion argument. Society would rather ignore a morally wrong act because of convenience, and call it a "right," while ignoring the rights of others.

You just said in this last post it needs to be fixed a tad...or fine tuned, I believe. Wait, here it is:

Yeah.

That's a shame then, because whoever did teach you clearly left their mark.

And btw - if you would like to research more into the middle east, I recommend looking into the Ottoman, Safavid, and Mughal empires.


Yeah. I'm sure the people suffering between now and then are going to be rejoicing in the streets tonight. :rolleyes:

Do you think this is hard? It's very theraputic for me, actually. I enjoy it quite much. And I've come up against much tougher characters in real-life debates than you, so this is like a practice session.

Regards,
Double-J