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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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And what's your point? We're at war...and btw...guess when the second highest deficit was? Oops! 1994-5, during Clintons administration! And he wasn't at war...whoops. (My source is again, Microeconomics 6t Ed. Boyes and Melvin. If you want, I'll post their diagram as well). Reagan - January 1981 - Federal deficit was $79 billion and the debt was $905.5 billion, or 34 % of the GDP. By 1988, the deficit was $152.5 billion and the debt was $2.6 trillion, or 54 % of the GDP. When Bush Sr. was leaving office in 1992, the deficit was $255.1 billion and a debt of $4.1 trillion, or 67 % of the GDP.  God, I love Alan Colmes. Is it? You tell me? You're the one who is against the Iraq war, but thinks diplomacy won't work in N.Korea, and Iran, who knows. Diplomacy won't work anywhere unless we have the support of the world and our citizens, which we clearly don't (for Iraq). And I bet a whole bunch of people here agree with me No shit. :rolleyes: What I have argued in this thread is not partisan - it's common sense. No, it's partisan. This common sense you refer to is your opinion. Not everyone agrees with it, trust me. How do you figure?
War with Iraq (Cause: WMD's, Genocide) War with N.Korea (Cause: WMD's) War with Iran (Cause: WMD's) Because America would've supported going into North Korea over Iraq. Kim Jong made the news even before 9/11. I had never seen Saddam make prime time until Bush said he had WMDs, which was a lie. A war cannot be won without public support. And here's a reality check -
- The President is a Yale graduate (history, actually...my kind of guy ). Do you really want to talk about Bush's knowledge? He entered Yale in 1964 with a SAT of 1206 (Verbal 566, Math 640), 200 points below Yale's average freshman in 1970. He graduated Yale in 1968 with a 2.35 GPA In the fall of 1970, he was rejected from admission at University of Texas Law School. In 1973, he applied to Harvard Business School with a 2.35 GPA. 1973 admission statistics are unavailable, but for an incomplete comparison: today's Harvard students average a GPA of 3.5 - no students were accepted with a GPA lower than 2.6. Rather than try and refute my argument, just concede, since you apparently can't. Otherwise you'd actually try to respond. You're the last person on here who can talk about refuting comments. Israel-Palestine "peace" hasn't been the same since the second intifada, which has nothing to do with Bush. That's great, but I never blamed Bush. I just said he hasn't made as many efforts to try and make peace in Israel like Clinton did. However, it is somewhat interesting that you can't really find a "good" communist out of the whole bunch...Hitler (totalitarian)...Stalin...Mussolini (fascism)...Castro...et al. Ho Chi Minh. I don't think you can consider Hitler or Mussolini parts of communism either. Both loathed communism. Welfare should be reserved for people in actual need...i.e., unwed mothers who can't afford day care in order to earn a living. That would be an instance where I would support welfare. Amen. That's why I said the government should make a committee to decide who deserves to get welfare and who doesn't really need/deserve it. And now the second part of my question...where? http://www.thegodfathertrilogy.net/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=6;t=005413 Yeah...what's your point? That WWII and FDR helped put people back to work? Okay. That's historically accurate.
But in doing so, he also created long-term issues over the role of social programs such as welfare, the essentially defunct social security system, and medicare/medicaid. The Medicare/Medicaid problem can be blamed solely on Bush. Social Security needs to be a tad edited, but doesn't need to be reformed like Bush wants it to be. Make a committee to monitor welfare is the only way to make sure that the people who need it get it and the people who don't need it don't. Yeah...forgive me for being a bit of a pessimist. I think, in all honestly, maybe rapists should be castrated. That would solve the problem real quick, eh? They shouldn't be put in prison for life. Well then you should've compared it to small businesses in the first place, but either way, you should classify the difference between a "small" business and "big" business. Small business is 100 workers or less. Big business is 1000 workers or more. And also, that 90% of businesses fail within the first fiscal year? 50 % THE LOWER CLASS OF WHAT?!?!? EAST JUHUNGA?!?! If we're talking about someone IN China getting an American job with payments that are 25 % of what an American would make, what lower class would I be talking about? It's called "unemployment," which are monies you can collect whilst unemployed but actively searching for a job, and it's a totally different thing. And those that are on unemployment are also eligible to welfare. Do you think a guy trying to support his wife and 4 kids on just unemployment will make it? but maybe he can't because democrats love their social programs, regardless of their corruption. I remeber a quote by a senator a few years ago that said "we refuse to reform medicare because it will hurt the receipients thereof." Bush has the Senate and House. All the power is in his hands. Wow. You really are economically challenged, aren't you? Wow, your insults are growing tiresome. Enough is enough. Please open an economics textbook before you come back, if you want to be taken seriously. Because it's illogical...and economically impossible - to spur fiscal growth if taxes are raised - because it lowers private sector revenue, and increases government revenue... And government revenue needs to be increased. This economy is flourishing right now, according to you. I think we can afford a couple months of taxes. Last time I checked - it would be felonious assault with a deadly weapon. You answered your own question. No one is going to be sent to prison for life for assault with a deadly weapon. It might even be better to keep him out of prison, but have him in some sort of counseling jail. There he will be off the streets and able to be rehabiliated. Also, you said that this guy who shot the girl is coming out of prison and then he shoots her. Prison doesn't do anything. It just makes a person worse. But your argument is clearly warped and not in touch with reality Yes, sorry my opinion is different. :rolleyes: Do you think arguing is going to even help your argument? Sure. Let's see what your history teacher taught you today. The genocide in Iraq doesn't even compare to that of which has been happening in Sudan for the last 21 years. For the second time, I don't have history class. Owned. Gay marriage is now a personal freedom? Since when? Last time I checked, a majority of Americans feel it is wrong, and it should be banned. Religiously, and evolutionarily (there is not logic behind homosexuality - it would end procreation and the race would die out) wrong. Last I checked, two women or two men getting married didn't affect someone else's life. It isn't hazardous to anyone else's health. It's their CHOICE, not yours. I need to talk to your "history" teacher, because he's feeding you a load of crap. For the 3rd time, I don't have history. You dedicated an entire Pat's Thoughts (sorry, I find that statement kind of redundant in this case ) on how Social Security is fine as it is. No, I didn't. And World Cultures? Okay. Your world cultures "teacher" needs to get in touch with reality. We're learning about the Axum, Egyptian, and Kush empires. I don't see what that or he has to do with American Cultures. I haven't had that since last year. ...stopped African genocide... Peace begins December 31st.  -Pat I think the following image sums up the argument nicely: It will get easier for you, DJ.  -Pat
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11/24/04 10:03 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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11/25/04 03:26 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/25/04 03:41 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/25/04 04:22 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/25/04 04:42 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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The Iceman
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11/25/04 05:06 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/25/04 06:32 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/25/04 09:23 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/25/04 01:50 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/25/04 01:55 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/26/04 02:45 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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DonMichaelCorleone
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11/26/04 02:47 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/26/04 06:01 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/26/04 06:12 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/26/04 02:15 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/26/04 04:37 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/26/04 05:22 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/26/04 05:54 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/26/04 06:21 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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DonMichaelCorleone
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11/26/04 06:28 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/26/04 06:38 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/27/04 06:39 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 06:54 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/27/04 06:55 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/27/04 07:06 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 07:27 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/27/04 08:50 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/27/04 08:51 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 09:39 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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11/27/04 09:58 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 10:40 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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11/27/04 11:02 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/27/04 11:08 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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11/27/04 11:33 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 03:48 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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The Iceman
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11/28/04 07:05 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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SC
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11/28/04 07:07 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 07:25 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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The Iceman
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11/28/04 07:59 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/28/04 01:54 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/28/04 08:13 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/29/04 02:29 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/29/04 02:40 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/29/04 05:02 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/29/04 08:26 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Missfifilopez
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11/29/04 10:31 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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11/30/04 01:03 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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11/30/04 03:40 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 12:35 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 12:49 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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12/01/04 01:22 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 01:38 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Signore Sole Aumentante
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12/01/04 01:42 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 01:43 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 02:22 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 02:34 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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mr. soprano
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12/01/04 02:34 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:00 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:07 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 03:27 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:32 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 03:49 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Mr. Baggins
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12/01/04 03:52 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 08:43 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/01/04 08:46 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/01/04 09:21 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 03:42 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 04:09 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 04:29 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 04:47 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/02/04 05:30 AM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/02/04 08:10 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/03/04 07:05 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Patrick
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12/04/04 03:13 PM
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Re: "Dear World, Sorry." -55,949,407 US voters
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Double-J
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12/05/04 03:49 AM
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