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DJ--Let's say that you're against the Iraq war, for abortion, for taxing the wealthy, and for stem cell research, but you vote for Kerry because you think that he's for these things and get the 2 canidates mixed up.
Did you ever read the publication by the League of Women voters? They clearly outline these types of issues. You can pick up a copy of this at a local library or town hall, they are a nonpartisan (well...in all honesty, a smidgen liberal) organization.

Problem solved.

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Why do I need a site? Yo obviously know the cut I'm talking about. Both Kerry AND Bush voted for cutting. I don't see what Kerry or Clinton have to do with this, but alright.
What do Kerry and Clinton have to do with this? They've all cut defense, but Clinton cut the defense in record numbers.


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How do we know they don't? I'm going to take someone's word over intelligence that has proven to be wrong in the past.
I need a big stamp that says "facetious" in bold.

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Diplomacy isn't working in North Korea. When was the last time Kim Jong even wanted to speak with us? Oh yeh, June. We'd have a lot more support for a war against North Korea then the war in Iraq.
Err...but diplomacy was working in Iraq, RIGHT?!?

Oh yeh. Hehe. Convenience in your arguments.

Europe wouldn't support us against N.Korea. You have no idea what european elitism and politics entails, clearly by your support for the world community.

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For the 30th time, I don't want us going to war with anyone, but I said, if we had to go to war with either Iran, Iraq, or North Korea, I would've picked North Korea. What part of that aren't you getting?
Apparently you're not getting the idea that your argument is redundant, by being against a unilateral war and then being for another in the same context.

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You think I'm a fortune teller or something? Let me look into my magic 8 ball.
Good. I just wanted you to see that you clearly know less about what's going on than the President and the government.


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How about Reagan giving $3 billion to the Taliban and Bin Laden, along with CIA training to fight off the Soviets?
Gee, since we weren't at war with those "nice" Soviets, we're we? And plus, the Soviets were having fun with their massacre of Afghanistan and such, why not support an anti-Soviet movement?


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If, by some slim chance there can be peace, now's the time to do it. Let's see how long it takes Bush to realize it.
w00t. How many times did you boy Clinton go, and NOTHING HAPPENED. Hmm...your argument is futile.

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I said that in its' first few months, nothing was recognized.
And how long ago was that?!? Chronological negligence, and also, convience for those who profited from the corruption.


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Is this why we gave $3 billion to the Taliban and Bin Laden too? Were trying to make them pro-American, or is our country just so prejudice over communism, that they took terrorism instead?
Sorry. During the Cold War, Russia WAS the terrorists.

Goodness gracious, I seriously wonder whether you get all your fodder from some liberal tightwad who teaches you basic world history at your school.


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We can force them until they're an adult.
There are also vo-tech schools that kids can go too.
Until the age of 16, we have truency laws. But if the kid doesn't work anyways, then what?

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That's why welfare needs to be more strict, as I've been saying the last few months.
Really? Where?

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The government should make certain committees to look into the people who've been on welfare a long time and try to get them a job. If these committees can get them a job, but then the person loses it, then we need to decide what to do with him/her.
Better yet, rather than dump more money into a committee, we could STOP GIVING PEOPLE MONEY and force them to get off their asses if they've been on or no longer meet the qualifications. And reform SSI as long as we're at it.

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So if a guy rapes a girl when he's 17 and is sentenced to 25 years in prison, but serves 20, he shouldn't get another chance at age 37?
Another chance to rape some other innocent girl?

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It's whoever made that God damn NCLB Act's fault. They need to appoint someone young who understands the youth.
I thought, according to you, the youth were apathetic and didn't care about their education.

Which is it Pat?

And please, refrain from taking God's name in vain. I don't tolerate blasphemy well, especially as a Catholic.

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Oh really? I remember saying that 95 % of businesses in America are small. When did I mention the other 5 %?
Right here...


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There are barely any big businesses in America.
My statistics also proved your argument wrong there, as well.


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Oh, I thought he'd be in Vietnam. No crap.
Then why did you say he'd be in the American lower-class. :rolleyes:

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I want more power to the middle AND lower classes, MORE restrictions on businesses in America, lower taxes on domestic companies, and enough welfare that all people can live on.
Haha...yeah. Restrict business, since the economy is clearly flourishing. And also...welfare for everyone?

Let's give everyone money so they don't have to work...

...but where will the money come from if nobody works...

...oh shit, we should've thought of that!

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Ok, so explain some sentences to me in these situations. What if a 19 year old kid looking for a job and getting cuts on welfare goes out and robs a store at gun point so that he can get enough money to feed him and his sister? It's his first offense.
First of all, I did say, and I quote..."every case is unique."

However, up until you just specified and mentioned that case, you've left it quite ambiguous.

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They can be counseled years and years.
All costing the taxpayers millions each year...

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Depends if the little girl dies. Depends if he was aiming for someone else. Like you said, all cases are different.
Let's not rationalize. So if she doesn't die, or was aiming for someone else, it's okay?

Wow.

Do you have ANY concept of right or wrong?


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No, they weren't. Russia was on NO ONE'S side. They signed a treaty with Germany (can't think of the name) saying that as long as Germany didn't go on their soil, Russia wouldn't get involved.
It was called the "Nonagression Pact," for those who don't bother to open a book.


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Germany attacked them for their wheat and oil supplies breaking the treaty, therefore Russia joined the allies and led them to victory.
Meanwhile, Stalin was committing mass genocide across his own country as well. Maybe that's why...he was a tad busy himself with dead bodies.


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And the Americans were getting creamed by the Japanese for the first 6 months after Pearl Harbor too.
w00t. Then we kicked ass at Midway, and thusly taught them a lesson thereafter.

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EVERY allie had a substantial role, but without Russia, the Axis Powers would've won.
w00t (again). Before you were saying how Russia won the entire war. Now each has a substantial role?

Again, I don't know who fed you this stuff at one point of another, but you are overemphasizing the Russian involvement to the success of the Allies efforts against the Axis powers.

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Name a European military that can even compete with America's.
So what? That means they can't send troops?

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No wonder the world hates us. You and your side just want to spit on them. You wish not to be their friends. How would people in the UK take this? Poland?
w00t! The world hates us because America is the greatest country, period. A champion of human rights and personal freedoms. The Middle East hates us because we support Israel. Europe hates us because we didn't have to go throught a bajillion revolutions to emerge as a powerful nation, and they are a bunch of elitist prats.

I don't care about Europe. Like I've said before, I'd like to see a move back to some isolationism.

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Hmm. But I thought we had this big coalition for the Iraq war?
Yeah! And what are the NONCOALITION countries doing? Playing with their dicks?


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And healthcare and medicare premiums have sky rocketed. Blaming it all on SS is idiotic.
Yeah...I forgot. You think Social Security is a perfect system.

You're history teacher is bloody amazing.

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Do you think it'll stay a democracy if we ever make it one?
If nothing else, this proves you didn't read my statement in the now notorious other thread. Try reading it, and then get back to me.

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Because today the UN successfully helped organize a peace deal that will go into afect as of December 31st.
w00t.

Who will enforce it, ideologue?

Regards,
Double-J