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So you're basically discriminating against peoples opinions and motivations behind voting.

That doesn't sound like a good reason to institute a poll "quiz."
DJ--Let's say that you're against the Iraq war, for abortion, for taxing the wealthy, and for stem cell research, but you vote for Kerry because you think that he's for these things and get the 2 canidates mixed up.

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Cite? Also, what about Kerry's numberous votes to cut intelligence, and Clinton, hell, he had hearings and panels to eliminate weapons and such that we are using in Iraq! Torecelli Principle? Do a google search for that.
Why do I need a site? Yo obviously know the cut I'm talking about. Both Kerry AND Bush voted for cutting. I don't see what Kerry or Clinton have to do with this, but alright.

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They admitted it. BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THEM...[/facetious]
How do we know they don't? I'm going to take someone's word over intelligence that has proven to be wrong in the past.

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So you want to unilaterally attack a nation because they have WMD's, instead of using diplomacy?

You're very lost. You say that's the reason we shouldn't have war in Iraq, but that's exactly what you want to do with N.Korea.
Diplomacy isn't working in North Korea. When was the last time Kim Jong even wanted to speak with us? Oh yeh, June. We'd have a lot more support for a war against North Korea then the war in Iraq.

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No, I'm just trying to prove your hypocritical stance on attacking N.Korea unilaterally but not Iraq, despite your basis that "N.Korea has weapons, Iraq didn't."
For the 30th time, I don't want us going to war with anyone, but I said, if we had to go to war with either Iran, Iraq, or North Korea, I would've picked North Korea. What part of that aren't you getting?

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Well then guesstimate for me.
You think I'm a fortune teller or something? Let me look into my magic 8 ball. :rolleyes:

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M'kay. What about Carter and the Shah of Iran? How about Clinton, and him letting Bin Laden go? Whoops.

Again, I said it was a black eye.
How about Reagan giving $3 billion to the Taliban and Bin Laden, along with CIA training to fight off the Soviets? How about Bush Sr. letting Saddam go? How many times did Bush go to Israel to meet with both Sharon and Arafat to try and make peace? Bush should be happy Arafat died. If, by some slim chance there can be peace, now's the time to do it. Let's see how long it takes Bush to realize it.

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Yeah, we'd rather be legal and support a leader we'd like to see be pro-American, instead of depriving millions of Iraqis by corrupting an international aid program.

Hmm...

legit contributions...

vs...

corrupt foreign aid...

yes, we clearly are worse than the French government.
If anyone though Saddam would be pro-American, then that's there problem. I don't trust a single one of those bastards in the Middle East, let alone a dictator.

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Where have you been? It's been suspected and researched since the early years of it's execution.
The early YEARS. My exact point. I said that in its' first few months, nothing was recognized.

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As I said before, we had hoped that Saddam would be a pro-American leader, or at least, neutral.
Is this why we gave $3 billion to the Taliban and Bin Laden too? Were trying to make them pro-American, or is our country just so prejudice over communism, that they took terrorism instead?

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If you don't have a problem, why are you complaining? If someone doesn't want to learn, we can't force them. But by that same token, we shouldn't have to support your deadbeat ass once you come of age and can't get a job because you didn't graduate from high school.
We can force them until they're an adult.
There are also vo-tech schools that kids can go too.

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I'm talking about the people who are perpetually on welfare, with no intention of ever getting off. Genuinely unemployed people are clearly different.
That's why welfare needs to be more strict, as I've been saying the last few months. The government should make certain committees to look into the people who've been on welfare a long time and try to get them a job. If these committees can get them a job, but then the person loses it, then we need to decide what to do with him/her.

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Don't fuck up in the first place. I mean, we aren't talking misdemeanors, we're talking rapists, murderers; the scum of the earth.
So if a guy rapes a girl when he's 17 and is sentenced to 25 years in prison, but serves 20, he shouldn't get another chance at age 37?

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M'kay...so explain to me how this is a Bush Administration problem...or fault...
It's whoever made that God damn NCLB Act's fault. They need to appoint someone young who understands the youth.

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You claim there is no more big business left in America
Oh really? I remember saying that 95 % of businesses in America are small. When did I mention the other 5 %?

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Oh yeah. That's right, because according to you, we can ALL RELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY...

Explain to me how people are saving if they are unemployed...
Explain to me why people are unemployed and you don't think the unemployed should get welfare, AND I mean ALL unemployed.

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Really? The China man would be in China. IN CHINA.
Oh, I thought he'd be in Vietnam. No crap. :rolleyes:

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And I want to see more power given to the middle class, less restrictions on business in America, protection of domestic companies, and less of this welfare society we have currently lived in since the Clinton administration.
I want more power to the middle AND lower classes, MORE restrictions on businesses in America, lower taxes on domestic companies, and enough welfare that all people can live on.

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I think we need a stronger penal system. The 3-strike? So explain to me how this is fair to the businesses the guy robs, especially the third?
Ok, so explain some sentences to me in these situations. What if a 19 year old kid looking for a job and getting cuts on welfare goes out and robs a store at gun point so that he can get enough money to feed him and his sister? It's his first offense.

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And I'm saying, if you feel they don't have the mental capacity to serve life or be executed, then explain to me how they have the capacity to be a sociopath.
They can be counseled years and years.

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That being said, what do you say to the parents of a little girl that gets shot up by the crack dealer who just got out and is reclaiming his "territory" and she got in the way? "Oh, he desertved a second chance?"
Depends if the little girl dies. Depends if he was aiming for someone else. Like you said, all cases are different.

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You know Russia was originally on their side, right?
No, they weren't. Russia was on NO ONE'S side. They signed a treaty with Germany (can't think of the name) saying that as long as Germany didn't go on their soil, Russia wouldn't get involved. Germany attacked them for their wheat and oil supplies breaking the treaty, therefore Russia joined the allies and led them to victory.

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The British and French were getting creamed until US involvement.
And the Americans were getting creamed by the Japanese for the first 6 months after Pearl Harbor too.

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Again, you put plenty of emphasis on the Russians when the US had a much more substantial role.
EVERY allie had a substantial role, but without Russia, the Axis Powers would've won.

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You seem to take some smug pride, as if europe sending troops in somehow makes them better than America.
Name a European military that can even compete with America's.

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Fuck Europe.
No wonder the world hates us. You and your side just want to spit on them. You wish not to be their friends. How would people in the UK take this? Poland?

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If they actually cared, they would've acted by now.
Hmm. But I thought we had this big coalition for the Iraq war? :rolleyes:

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Yes. I love to see that. Look at my grandfather, WWII vet, paid into Social Security all his life, but when he came of age, and got sick, HE DIDN'T SEE A DIME.

I forgot. It's not all about yourself.

We need to work our balls off to support those who don't.
And healthcare and medicare premiums have sky rocketed. Blaming it all on SS is idiotic.

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So we should just leave the country without a stable government, in a warzone militia state?
Do you think it'll stay a democracy if we ever make it one?

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So why isn't Europe, most of which not dedicating troops to Iraq/Afghanistan, send their armies to Sudan??????
Because today the UN successfully helped organize a peace deal that will go into afect as of December 31st.

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