So you're basically discriminating against peoples opinions and motivations behind voting.

That doesn't sound like a good reason to institute a poll "quiz."

Cite? Also, what about Kerry's numberous votes to cut intelligence, and Clinton, hell, he had hearings and panels to eliminate weapons and such that we are using in Iraq! Torecelli Principle? Do a google search for that.

They admitted it. BUT HOW DO YOU KNOW THEY HAVE THEM...[/facetious]


As soon as you're opinions on intelligence become less laughable.

So you want to unilaterally attack a nation because they have WMD's, instead of using diplomacy?

You're very lost. You say that's the reason we shouldn't have war in Iraq, but that's exactly what you want to do with N.Korea.

No, I'm just trying to prove your hypocritical stance on attacking N.Korea unilaterally but not Iraq, despite your basis that "N.Korea has weapons, Iraq didn't."


Well then guesstimate for me.


M'kay. What about Carter and the Shah of Iran? How about Clinton, and him letting Bin Laden go? Whoops.

Again, I said it was a black eye.


Yeah, we'd rather be legal and support a leader we'd like to see be pro-American, instead of depriving millions of Iraqis by corrupting an international aid program.

Hmm...

legit contributions...

vs...

corrupt foreign aid...

yes, we clearly are worse than the French government.


Where have you been? It's been suspected and researched since the early years of it's execution.


As I said before, we had hoped that Saddam would be a pro-American leader, or at least, neutral.

We had no influence over Kim Jung Il's succession over his father, Kim Il Sung.


If you don't have a problem, why are you complaining? If someone doesn't want to learn, we can't force them. But by that same token, we shouldn't have to support your deadbeat ass once you come of age and can't get a job because you didn't graduate from high school.

I'm talking about the people who are perpetually on welfare, with no intention of ever getting off. Genuinely unemployed people are clearly different.

Don't fuck up in the first place. I mean, we aren't talking misdemeanors, we're talking rapists, murderers; the scum of the earth.

M'kay...so explain to me how this is a Bush Administration problem...or fault...


You claim there is no more big business left in America, but the top 10 world businesses are as follows (as of 2002):

1.) Wal-Mart (U.S.): $219.8 Million
2.) Exxon Mobil (U.S.): $191.6 Million
3.) General Motors (U.S.): $177.3 Million
4.) BP (UK): $174.3 Million
5.) Ford Motor (U.S.): $162.4 Million
6.) Enron (U.S., defunct): $138.8 Million
7.) DaimlerChrysler (U.S./Germany): $136.9 Million
8.) RoyalDutch/Shell (Netherlands): $135.2 Million
9.) General Electric (U.S.): $125.9 Million
10.) Toyota Motor (JPN): $120.8 Million

*Source: "Microeconomics" 6th Ed., Boyes and Melvin.

No big business left in America, eh?

:rolleyes:

And I'm supposed to know this when you don't cite?

Oh yeah. That's right, because according to you, we can ALL RELY ON SOCIAL SECURITY...

Explain to me how people are saving if they are unemployed... :rolleyes:

Really? The China man would be in China. IN CHINA.

And I want to see more power given to the middle class, less restrictions on business in America, protection of domestic companies, and less of this welfare society we have currently lived in since the Clinton administration.

Not when I find it redundant.

I think we need a stronger penal system. The 3-strike? So explain to me how this is fair to the businesses the guy robs, especially the third?

And I'm saying, if you feel they don't have the mental capacity to serve life or be executed, then explain to me how they have the capacity to be a sociopath.

Every case is unique.

That being said, what do you say to the parents of a little girl that gets shot up by the crack dealer who just got out and is reclaiming his "territory" and she got in the way? "Oh, he desertved a second chance?"


See my above responses.


You know Russia was originally on their side, right?

The British and French were getting creamed until US involvement.

Again, you put plenty of emphasis on the Russians when the US had a much more substantial role.


So it's the bucket collecting the dripping water from the faucet, but not the wrench needed to fix it?

I hope you get the analogy.

You seem to take some smug pride, as if europe sending troops in somehow makes them better than America.

Fuck Europe.

If they actually cared, they would've acted by now.

And I'm saying the whole point of outsourcing is trade.

Get it?

w00t.

Yes. I love to see that. Look at my grandfather, WWII vet, paid into Social Security all his life, but when he came of age, and got sick, HE DIDN'T SEE A DIME.

I forgot. It's not all about yourself.

We need to work our balls off to support those who don't.

Silly me.

That's fine with me.