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Well then be specific. Explain to me like I'm a 6 year old, how some quiz should legally justify or disallow someones right to vote???
Why would a 6 year old need to know? You need to be 18 to vote. 'Some quiz' will show people if you're intelligent enough to vote for someone because you support them for what they think, rather then just thinking one is better then the other for no reason.

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It just seems funny to me. These are the same people collecting intelligence in the NSA and such, and even international agencies (MoD), who had information/rumours about a pending attack on America before 9/11.

Why didn't we use the intelligence?!?!?!?! BUSH LET THE TOWERS FALL?!?!?!?
Bush was given information about "Bin Laden hijacking planes," but either failed to understand them or to take it serious. So, in all seriousness, 9/11 could've been prevented.

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Yet when we did end up using intelligence, and more than one source thereof, that suggested Saddam had WMD's or was persuing them, now it's "bad Bush, war for oil."
And what about all of the proof that Iran and North Korea have WMDS? We KNOW that they have them, especially North Korea. We were uncertain about Iraq. Why enter Iraq (which was questionable about WMD) when we have 2 other countries that we KNOW have WMDS?

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So don't be saying "bad intelligence" if the left chooses to use it in one instance for it's advantage, and then use it as fodder for anti-Bush sentiment the next.
You mean, for HIS advantage. It was HIS intelligence. I'm sure Bush knew that some intelligence was accurate and some wasn't. If Bush wouldn't have rushed into Iraq, then I don't think a lot of people would dislike the Iraq war, but he DID rush into the war, which is why more and more men keep dying each day.

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What is the point of going into N.Korea right now? We are trying to accomplish the task of disarming and negotiating dipolmatically, through the proper channels.
I'm not saying we should go to North Korea right NOW. I'm saying that they were/are more of a threat then Saddam and Iraq.

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But now when we use diplomacy v. Kim Jong Il, it's wrong?!?!
Kim Jong has made open threats against the US and the US has NEVER EVER gave him money. We gave Saddam billions and billions. Saddam used the money we gave him to buy all of his palaces etc. It's a totally different situation. I have the impression that there's something the US government is trying to cover up.

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And Sudan? There is genocide being committed in Sudan, no doubt. But again, we are already on a two front war. I'll ask again - WHERE IS THE INTERNATIONAL COMMUNITY...Why should America have to be the first to send troops?
Why were you ok with America sending troops to Iraq first? You obviously believe that Saddam had WMDS. If he had them, then why was he only a threat to the US? Why didn't the UK go in first if he was such a threat to the world?

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Ugh...let's have a pity party now.
Is that supposed to be a joke? You're spitting in the face of people who don't have the money to escape the cities and get into a good school. It's like you don't want anybody to go on with life if they can't get a good education, yet you don't have any solutions (nor does Bush) on how we can help them now, before it's too late.

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Please justify why we should spend working taxpayers dollars to do this.
Because that is how America works. There are taxes. We could use that $225 billion that Bush spent on the war with no cause, but, oh wait, too late.

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Call it laziness, apathy, or what have you. It doesn't excuse them.
But it should excuse you for criticizing people on welfare. These are the people who will be on welfare. If you aren't willing to help them now, then it will really cost these tax payers (that you seem to feel sympathy for) so much in the future.

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Feel free to continue to tighten the noose around your neck on this one, Pat. Until you cite some reliable source telling me blacks or hispanics are GENETICALLY INFERIOR to whites/europeans, then I'm going to stand by my position.
Ok. Then why do over half of the high school drop outs happen to be minorities? What's the problem? You tell me.

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The Middle Class bears the tax burden, no doubt; it has been this way for decades. Yet, without corporate America, and big business, the economy would collapse. The government wouldn't take in nearly enough revenue from taxes and sanctions on those companies...
Big business? Over 95 % of business are SMALL businesses. There are barely any big businesses in America. The small businesses represent over 50 % of working people. Why should the other half and the 5 % of big businesses get off easy?

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...the deficit will skyrocket even higher than it is now.
It's going to skyrocket no matter what, in these next 4 years.

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We'd better just let them right back out into the community, since their such "nice" people.
Um. I didn't say that.

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Forgive me for thinking that some people are unreformable...I'd like to see what kind of "scale" you'd use to arbitrarily decide who gets to stay in prison and who is "reformed" through therapy and whatnot.
The only people who I believe should be in jail for life with no parole are people who commit murder. Everyone else can be re-educated, rehabilitated, and brought back into society.

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Look at the guy who shot Reagan...he didn't get time...he was sent to a mental hospital, yet he had a prior criminal record and such...do you think that someone who tries to whack the president should be turned back out into public without jail time?
I don't feel anyone with mental problems should be held accountable unless they know what they're doing and the court can prove without a reasonable doubt that they knew it. This is why people that are retarded and have the IQ of a child shouldn't be put on death row or sentenced to life in prison.

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If you can afford the drugs, you can afford rehab. :p
I don't find that amusing, as you seem to. People don't realize how addicted they are. These people actually get sick if they don't do a drug they're addicted to. The government should give them one chance to clean themselves up in a rehab. If they mess up after being completely clean, then they go to prison.

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Do you realize why the Middle East hates America so much?
Because we try to control them and their oil fields. And do you honestly think that it's just the Middle East that hates us? The whole world hates us, but hey, there's a great quote: "Don't hate me because I'm American. Just hate my government. And the President."

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SO THEN WHY DO YOU WANT TO SEND AMERICAN TROOPS?!?!?!?!?!?
Because sending troops to Iraq and sending them to Sudan are two TOTALLY different things. There is no one to defend the Sudanese people against the rebels.

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Do you honestly think their army can fight off the rebels without UN peacekeepers or troops???
Do you think the rebels would be able to fight off artillery and armor that the US have?

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You cannot exist without exporting and importing, it takes out a crucial component of a national economy.
Ok. For some reason, you think I'm talking about strictly trade when I say outsource. I'm referring to American jobs that the President takes away, sends overseas, hires a foreigner, and then pays them 25 % of what the American worker would get here.

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And I wouldn't say "completely" outsource, I'd appreciate a citation to support that argument.
Powell Admits Bush Supports Outsourcing
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df05212004.html
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df03172004.html
http://www.misleader.org/daily_mislead/read.asp?fn=df03102004.html

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My point is this - justify why the United States should be sending in troops, yet european superpowers are doing nothing more than throwing hapless francs into the arms of an undermanned and incapable army (that of the official Sudanese government)?
Because the US gave us 2 reasons to enter Iraq:
1.) Get rid of Saddam because he commits genocide.
2.) Get WMDS

Since there are no WMDS, we are in there right now strictly to get in a new President who 'won't commit genocide,' yet we don't want to help the Sudanese where there is genocide now.


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