In the movie The Godfather, when Michael proposed to kill the captain, Tom say that it's forbidden to kill a cop because otherwise all the police would turn against the family. So this is the fiction, in real life I know that Carmine Persico in 1987
ordered to Joel Cacace to kill William Aronwald Cacace arranged for brothers Vincent and Eddie Carnini to murder Aronwald. Cacace gave the two hit men a piece of paper with the name Aronwald on it. However, Aronwald's father, George Aronwald, was an administrative law judge and shared his son's office; the gunmen thought he was the target. On March 20, 1987, the Carinis shot and killed George Aronwald Senior in a laundromat near his home.

Furious at the Aronwald murder, the heads of the other New York "Five Families" demanded that the Colombos kill the Carnini Brothers. An enraged Cacace recruited Lucchese crime family member Carmine Variale and Bonanno crime family associate Frank Santora to eliminate the Carninis.In June 1987, both Carnini brothers were found dead in the back seats of their cars in Brooklyn.Concerned about the loyalty of his assassins, Cacace decided to murder them also. At the Carninis' funeral, Cacace allegedly pointed out Variale and Santora to a second pair of hitmen. In September 1987, Variale and Santora were murdered outside a Brooklyn social club in broad daylight. This extraordinary caution helped to temporarily conceal Cacace's involvement in the Aronwald murder.

Also in 1987, Cacace was involved in the unrelated murder of former New York Police Department (NYPD) officer Carlo Antonino.

On December 18, 2008, Cacace was charged with ordering the 1997 murder of New York Police Department officer Ralph Dols. According to the indictment, Cacace felt humiliated that Dols, a Latino, had recently married Cacace's ex-wife Kim.Cacace allegedly ordered Colombo capo Dino Calabro and soldier Dino Saracino to murder Dols. On August 25, 1997, Calabro and Saracino allegedly ambushed Dols outside his Brooklyn home and killed him.

So Cacace ordered to whack two policemen, and anything has happened, nor that the Colombo or the other families have said or done something.

I knew that at least in the American Mafia to kill a prosecutor or a cop was strictly forbidden, so I thought there are other cases in which the American Mafia has killed any politicians or cops?

Good stuff Furio, Thanks!

non c'è di che,NNY78 I always try to don't write boring posts.

Another real case.

In 1978, Cleveland police warned then-mayor Dennis Kucinich that local Mafia members had put out a hit on him because of some of his mayoral initiatives were hindering money-making opportunities. Police told Kucinich that a hitman was planning on shooting the mayor while he marched in a parade in October 1978. Kucinich missed the parade for health reasons, but took the threat seriously enough to begin keeping a gun in his home for protection.

Can't think of case when American Mafia did that,but in Italy that is normal lol

The outfit killed Anton Cermak in 1932 (?). Wasn´t Cermak the mayor of Chicago at that time?

Rudy "Handsome Rudy" Santobello killed a cop and after 17 years his case was overturned by the Supreme Court!

strax what about the murder of jfk. wasn't carlos Marcello,santos trafficante moe giancana, all bosses. involved in that hit?

hairy knuckles,you touched on something that's hardly mentioned.yes cermak was killed by the outfit. however it went down as a "lone nut" assassain. sound familiar?

Yeah that is correct. But Santobello probably wasn´t made at the time. So technically speaking, his case shouldn´t apply here.

(Mobsters have been killing cops since forever though. Cops get shot at and killed all the time.)

Furio, didn´t you ask this question once before? (Or was it somebody else?) The case of Giovanelli/Maltese/Guatieri killing that cop (sorry his name escapes me right now) in Queens came up.

Yes it sounds familiar. I don´t remember the details but I think the assassin claimed he was an anarchist who wanted to kill the US president (who visited Chicago at the time) or something but missed him and "accidentally" shot the mayor instead.

Oh now I get it. Yes of course. But I will not go there.

Hairy how about this recent case:

"Giuseppe “Joe” Petrosino, known as “the Detective in the Derby,” was a pioneer in taking down organized crime back in the early 1900s and was the NYPD’s secret weapon when it came to fighting Italian mobsters."

http://nypost.com/2014/06/23/italian-police-solve-105-year-old-nypd-mob-detectives-murder/

Absolutely Beansie. The Mafia was most likely behind that killing.

Strax,in the post I specified the American Mafia because I know that the 4 mafias in Italy they have no problem in killing anyone.

Hairy, Chicago mayor Anton Cermak, on March 6, 1933 by Giuseppe Zangara,I think Zangara, was a poor desperate that was used by the Outfit to do the dirty work, on why Cermak was killed, there are no clear reasons.

Author Ronald Humble offers his view as to why Cermak was killed. In his book Frank Nitti: The True Story of Chicago's Notorious Enforcer, Humble contends that Cermak was corrupt and that the Chicago Outfit hired Zangara to kill Cermak in retaliation for Cermak's attempt to murder Frank Nitti.

If you are saying "most likely", does it mean you aren't 100% sure? But who else would be interested in doing it?

Also, there were those 2 policemen killed by Anselmi and Scalise in Chicago in 1925.

And there were the Joseph Raimo and Louis Olivero murders in Kansas city in the first 1900s.

Hairy I don't think I already asked this question, perhaps a similar, but I think I would have remembered.

furio.. cermak was going to kill frank nitti? that's a long reach.

Yes,Rudolph Santobello wasn't made in 1950,but is a good example,when Petrosino was murdered there are no Mafia only Black Hand.

Vito Cascio Ferro was real mafia, only in Italy, not in USA.

Absolutely, Hairy. Rudy didn't get his button until after he got out. So his name doesn't belong here .

Same thing for the Kansas city murders.

http://americanmafia.com/Cities/Kansas_City.html

"In the early 1900’s, a string of unsolved murders motivated the KCPD to assign a special agent named Joseph Raimo to Little Italy. Raimo was on the job only a short time before being shot-gunned to death while walking his beat at Fourth and Holmes. Raimo was replaced with another Italian officer named Louis Olivero. Officer Olivero’s home was bombed and the violence in Little Italy continued, reaching its darkest point in 1919"

Don't write on who killed JFK, if the Mafia, CIA, Cuba, Communists or all together.

Speak only of sure murders.

By the way, what about all those cop murders in Akron in 1918 when Rosario Borgio (also spelled as Borgia) tried to put a bounty on the whole police department? The hitmen killed 4 policemen before being apprehended. Is Borgio considered real mafia or "black hand"?

Wasn't Frank Lino implicated on a double police murder in the 50's -60's? Like Rudy Santobelo, I don't know if he was made then.

Hairy how about the case Of Detective Anthony J. Venditti?

"Tuesday, January 21, 1986, was a mild day. Detective Burke, then 42, and Detective Venditti, 34, were tracking Federico (Fritzy) Giovanelli, reputed to be a mobster in the Genovese family, who was suspected of running a major gambling and loan-sharking ring along the Queens-Brooklyn border. The detectives were assigned to a special unit of city detectives and Federal Bureau of Investigation agents, called the Joint Organized Crime Task Force."
detective-s-family-bitter-at-police-and-wounded-survivor.html

http://www.timesnewsweekly.com/news/2011..._Sacrifice.html

In my mind, there is no doubt that the Mafia was behind the Petrosino killing.



You are right Furio. It was somebody else. Sorry.



Yeah, that happened in the early 1960s if memory serves. Lino was made later, in the 1970s.

Yeah. That´s the Queens case I referred to above.

And we can not forget Judges Giovanni Falcone and Paolo Borsellino

Some would rather take the easy way out and put a bullet in their own heads before the fellas can catch up with them like police chief of Cliffside Park did after Willie Moretti was whacked...he knew what was coming.