Being that he has been jailed since 1988 and stepped down as boss in 1990, I really wonder if he still holds any power whatsoever?.....Does anyone still acknowledge him as their superior and kick up to him? Does he get respect in the slammer?

Also, I understand that a lot of Scarfo loyalists are being released from jail now and I wonder who they are exactly.....I thought Scarfo killed all his people close to him.

Actually just saw "Philly Update" post.....I guess I will start reading all 600 post for the guys names.

he probably got a piece of the bustout scarfo jr and pelullo did on that mortgage company in TX, but i doubt anyone kicks him up anything on a regular basis

Rollin : When that runs out he may be out of cash.
Nick jr. was his money on the inside.
Now unless he gets Chris to help him ,he will be down to a couple cousins .

Scarfo jr is a numskull, being that his father was a mob boss you would think he should no better than to discuss sensitive matters on the phone...that's what hung him

Serp,

What if anything does the fact that Scarfo Sr. has done his time quietly count for money wise?

That and many other things is eating him alive right this minute.

He was there every day with all of them,yes he was what the neighborhood guys called a geek.But the kid was not by any means stupid.

The kid could make money though(that don't matter when your sitting in the can)The guy earned more money then anyone in Philly did after his father.(alone)I am not up on the Lucchese familys skippers but Philly yea.Just could not wait and talk,he and others have to pick up the dam phone.(nobody can figure it)


And he had all the experience that he needed from the heavy guys he was around his whole life.The FBI was on our street day in and day out for years.All of Ducktown seen them each day and night.Shit they would send guys in the bars on each corner ,to sit and listen.
We know what apartments ,and offices they rented to take pictures.They were in the dam convent were the nuns lived also.

But he knew all this ,and when he did not the kids and people on the street knew .and told...

Each time he would say never again,then he lets that ass Pelullo get close to him, And he let him get closer then most know other then this case.

Say what you want about his dad but i don't think they ever got him on tape saying anything but little shit,To this day the office did not produce any tapes.

Think some researchers here (that can find just about anything)
found a few of them talking in Philly,but nothing that caused any indictment i believe(so he had the schooling)and still did it...

Remember when Scarfo Junior assaulted a woman in an elevator at the hospital? He thought she was a dude supposedly. This was back in the 80's.

I think you are asking about money ,for keeping his mouth shut ?
I am close to them ,and unless they are scamming everybody he and Mimi have no cash to speak of .

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Serp, thanks for the insights.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&ei=CW8DVKXoDKnLsQTvjoKIDQ&url=http://news.cnet.com/FBI-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/2100-1029_3-6140191.html&cd=4&ved=0CCcQFjAD&usg=AFQjCNE735LKpk1YykqIZuRmiUnwoSNpfA&sig2=q2j8vcnt_yWebxbIqZ_aDg

@ serp: basically the link I tried to post says the way they got scarfo sr is by turning on the mic in his cell phone to ease drop on his conversatios, and if you have a mic in your car like an onstar system the mic can be turned on to listen to everything that's being discussed in your car, they don't make this information public because they don't want the criminals yo out smart them, also they can install software in your computer that can save every keystroke you do

I think you mean Jr. ?

And if you do, they had all of them tapped according to one of the persons that was locked up in that bust.

The person did not say if Nicks phone was first,or if they did them all at once.

They did have recordings early on.
People that were involved are weary to speak on there front yards now. (can not blame them)

No, I mean scarfo sr, he was one of the first mobsters that they tried that with, they have to start writing on paper and burning it afterwards

Who had the phone ,they were the size of a car battery then.

Never seen a phone anywhere but Scarf Inc office and the kitchen..

And he would rip them out....

He would make one mistake and let Phil call from the pay phones in a three or so block area.

The technology was just not there ,and if there was a phone in a car ,he would never talk in a car.

I don't think it was Scarfo if anything it was Ardito. Scarfo was in jail way in the late 1980's?

"The FBI appears to have begun using a novel form of electronic surveillance in criminal investigations: remotely activating a mobile phone's microphone and using it to eavesdrop on nearby conversations.
The technique is called a "roving bug," and was approved by top U.S. Department of Justice officials for use against members of a New York organized crime family who were wary of conventional surveillance techniques such as tailing a suspect or wiretapping him.
Nextel cell phones owned by two alleged mobsters, John Ardito and his attorney Peter Peluso, were used by the FBI to listen in on nearby conversations. The FBI views Ardito as one of the most powerful men in the Genovese family, a major part of the national Mafia.

http://news.cnet.com/FBI-taps-cell-phone-mic-as-eavesdropping-tool/2100-1029_3-6140191.html

Correct

This so called "roving Bug" was also used on Greg DePalma when Falcone gave him a bugged telephone.

That is totally different,they are what we use at our company.
They are and were set up to do that ,the mic had to do that to transmit and receive on the beep beep.

But if Nick even seen one of them he would had that person thrown is the bay at the end of Georgia ave....

Totally different like Serp said. They gave those phones to the guys. This 'Roving Bug' can turn on the cells internal microphone to record conversations - actually first time hearing this but not my first time thinking they could do it. Just proves it.

They can make anything seem like something it's not.

Have you heard all of the tapes? I'm sure not unless you were/are an attorney or defendant on the case. The evidence we continuously added to and there are 1000's of hours of tapes. The only tapes gave were even the slightest bit of a gray area were prison tapes were he was simply 'yes dad yea dad, I know dadding' and old out of touch man who happens to be his father.

The tapes were damning for Pelullo and even the "professionals" who got off.

Don't speak on what you don't know bigfella..

This was supposed to be attached to "thebigfella" 's orginal posting not serp's ... but a message that serp replied to. urgh... sry.

My post should have went wih this... sry..

They can make anything seem like something it's not.

Have you heard all of the tapes? I'm sure not unless you were/are an attorney or defendant on the case. The evidence we continuously added to and there are 1000's of hours of tapes. The only tapes gave were even the slightest bit of a gray area were prison tapes were he was simply 'yes dad yea dad, I know dadding' and old out of touch man who happens to be his father.

The tapes were damning for Pelullo and even the "professionals" who got off.

Don't speak on what you don't know bigfella.. smile

@massimo: I never do, I stated facts the roving bug is a fact, one of the ways they got sr. Is by installing a program on his computer that recorded every keystroke and that's a fact. Merlino was right when he said on day sr. Is going to get jr. 100 years in prison one day

B-fella : What was the out come of this ,did you ever find the tapes you were looking for or speaking about .
I am still lost what you are talking about sr. having a cel phone ?
And or a PC back in the day ?

Scarfo jr was the one that had his computer hacked by the feds, he was living in Belleveille NJ at the time and kind of working with a gambino associate even though he was under the protection of the lucchese's.

I was trying to say that the electronics were not available back in the day .even if it was Nick sr. would have none of that shit in the house.

Nick jr was close to a guy Andy back then he is a Gambino .

Yep. Andy K also known as Andy M owed scarfo jr money and never paid him, hence they had a falling out,

First you said they got Scarfo Sr. by turning the mic up on his car equipment or something, and started talking about OnStar and stuff. Now you're saying that they actually got Scarfo Sr by using a roving bug on his computer and recording his keystrokes. Why would Nicky Scarfo Sr. be talking about his illegitimate business on a PC? And do you know how many people actually knew how to really use a computer back in Scarfo's day? Very few, unless you worked with them. Which is the fact? That they got Scarfo Sr. on Onstar or through his pc?