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Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
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08/26/14 01:53 PM
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Well we know Gotti figured Gigante was the only one who would possibly seek revenge for "slaying a boss" since he's a real " stickler for the rules", but figured he had no problems with (Massino) Bonanno, (vic orena/ Donnie shacks/ Gerry Lang) columbo, gas and amuso (luchese).
But Gotti went and did it anyway however this doesn't mean he wasn't afraid of Gigante. Rather, according to Sammy, John told him "he's (Chin) too smart to fuk with us"
However down the line, Decicco was killed but at the time again according to Sammy "we had no idea who did it"
But surely this must have been crystal clear once the Feds warned Gotti the Westside was looking to whack him.
Then, Bobby Manna was taped in his restaurant toilet talking about whacking John and Gene.
I'm sure by then Gotti figured out the Chin must have been responsible for the Decicco hit too but instead of retaliating, Gotti sends word through Gravano that there are no ill feelings
And they later met for a commission meeting in that apartment complex, where Gotti told Chin he had no problems with him
And Chin played dumb saying Manna and others plotted off the record unbeknown to him.
Gotti liked to portray himself as tough and fearless but truth is, he feared many guys
His brother Gene was taped saying his brother John didn't want to whack Demeo due to the "army of killers" around Roy
And again I think he was scared of Gigante too. whereby in contrast Gigante was not scared of Gotti in the slightest
That Irish hoodlum Eddie Maloney claims a young Gigante was seen as a "star" in prison because of the failed assassination on Costello
Gigante was a bum at this time and "if he had the balls to go after a guy like Costello he had the balls to whack anyone" says Maloney
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: MemphisMafia]
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08/26/14 03:22 PM
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You don't become the head of the Gambino Crime Family being a chicken shit.In all fairness to Gotti regarding Demeo,even Decicco had to pass that contract off.Even Casso had to get the guys close to Demeo.NOBOBY in New York could of killed Demeo except the guys he trusted and that is who did it It's not that nobody could kill him. If he or they wanted to could of had sniper, or two and take him out in a second.(sloppy,not mob style) This is how it's always been done, make him as comfortable as possible. (this is how it is done)and a couple behind the ear... textbook. And a bomb, every now and then....
Last edited by Serpiente; 08/26/14 03:25 PM.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Tonytough]
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08/26/14 04:01 PM
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It wasn't that the chin had the balls to shoot costello,it's what Vito would have done to him if he refused, so in turn you can say chin feared what vito, becareful using the word fear when speaking about gangsters, it's more of a healthy respect that they have for one another, nobody wants a war
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Vitto]
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08/26/14 05:49 PM
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John Gotti jr was queen for a day.. Look that up and your understand what that means..yes everybody scared of somthing !! No offense, buddy. But you keep repeating the same thing over and over, on the board and in the shout box. If it's true that Junior Gotti was a rat, no one cares. No one is the slightest bit shocked by who's a rat in this day and age. We're at a point where bosses have testified against their subordinates. FBI files have been released and it turns out that stone gangsters were dry snitches all along. And even the "stand up guys" today make plea bargains acknowledging the existence of the Mafia to avoid long prison terms. No one should be shocked that people who are capable of murdering their best friends are also capable of informing on their best friends. It ain't a movie. It's a shit life all the way around.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Vitto]
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08/26/14 06:16 PM
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Huh yes my friend I mention it because it will be public very soon..the only one who is going to be surprised by it will be junior himself because he still trying to play roll but yet very scared..oh and people do care otherwise you be on this wanna be sight.. So don't act like a mutt.. I was just giving you friendly advice. But whatever.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Vitto]
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08/26/14 06:33 PM
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Huh yes my friend I mention it because it will be public very soon..the only one who is going to be surprised by it will be junior himself because he still trying to play roll but yet very scared..oh and people do care otherwise you be on this wanna be sight.. So don't act like a mutt.. So you act like you have inside info about John Jnr Gotti then insult those who actually respond to your bullshit? Your circle of friends must be fucking HUGE in RL.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
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08/26/14 10:28 PM
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I few days ago I found The Gotti Tapes book on google play for very cheap (if you don't mind reading off a tablet, cell or laptop). It includes Sammy's testimony and transcripts of the bug in the apartment above Ravenite. Reading their conversations, I get the impression that Gotti really was a guy who walked around high fiving himself all day. He cannot let Sammy or Frank say more than half a sentence without interrupting and finishing what he thinks the point should be. So I get the impression he feels very powerful and secure and don't think he worries about other families. He takes prison as a certainty too, he knows he's going quite soon anyway.
BTW he mentions Chin a few times. Chin has sent him a word that there's a guy who's he thinks is going to testify against Gotti and Gotti is going to have a meeting about it. There doesn't seem to be any ill will.
Last edited by Belette; 08/26/14 10:32 PM.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Tonytough]
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08/27/14 12:56 AM
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Gotti insulted and criticized each person including his his most trusted men, like Sammy Gravano. The one he was afraid was Chin Gigante, both because Chin was the boss of the Genovese and because Gotti knew that even if he wanted to take revenge for the death of DeCicco, knew he couldn't declare war to the Genovese. If he did, the other families in the best case, would remain neutral, at worst they would jump on the Gambino, Gotti before if he won't been killed by his men also were the 80s not in the mafia golden age and the gambino would have gone the end of the colombo after the war of the 90s.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
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08/27/14 02:10 AM
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I remember wen he was at the sitdown he told gigante , maybe the cops killed Paul . Later he was caught on a wiretap laughing about it , I dint think he was scared of chin at all , he was more scared of flying than he was of the chin On the Ravenite wiretap Gotti, Sammy and Frank Locascio were talking that the cops probably killed Paul, and there was just the three of them in the room.
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Re: Was John Gotti afraid of the Chin
[Re: Tonytough]
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08/27/14 07:15 AM
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please clarify: Didn't the Chin make a comment about Gotti getting his son involved in the life? Something Like "I would never bring my kids into this"
Aren't his family involved??
Boss of tha toilet!
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