from what I read about the uncle joe meeting the gambinos its more important who they make down there lately because they have had so many rats in the past. the last guy who flipped was the horse head guy who was made by stanfa in 1993 so they did good for awhile, I know horse head flipped in 2000 but my point is hes the last made guy since that group of stanfa tards. uncle joe could have made awhole bunch of guys but he said it can wait for merlino to do it.i really don't think they give a note of guys they intend to make then 1 of the 5 familys probably the gambinos. since its seems the luchese and Genovese get along well in nj.