Likes Michael Moore and Tupac........I take it this is Patrick under another name :p

Michael Moore is being "attacked" because things said from people in his movie where taken out of context and edited so he LIED about them. He is also being "attacked" by people who do not agree with his views. If he has the right to say something, don't we have the right to question it or say things right back?

Of course you're welcome to post here; we have a fairly large international contingent, and we welcome those not in the U.S.

I just found it interesting that you said you'd rather die in your country's way than to live in an American way, yet you're going out of your way to post on a board based in a country whose ideals you apparently despise.

Like I said, I was just curious.

Im sorry if i used an uncorrect way to express my thougts, but i was just indignant with what i was reading about arafat, and raggingbull reply about my country. I dont despise your country and the way you live , i DESPISE your president and his thoughts.

Corleone, be sure that im not Patrick. Well, i think that nobody has the full truth, so there should be some lies in moores films, but i agree more with his ideals than with his oponents ones.

Well taking what someone says and editing it to make it seem like something else is not "some lies" that is intentional. A lot of people agree with what Moore thinks, that doesn't make them right or give them more of a right to say things than people who don't.

You just said you don't like our leader, well some of us don't like yours.

There's also massive poverty. If you think that it is soley based on the Helms-Burton act, you are sadly mistaken. Why don't they trade with nations besides the United States??? [/b][/quote]It's a BIG reason for the poverty.

If you dont like my president, i respect your ideas and all you say about him. Well i dont think that moore can do this editing you say in his films, because changing somebodys declaration meaning is ilegal, so the people who appear in moores films that have been victims of this editing , should have already put him in court, and i think that this hasnt happened yet.

I give props to Nicholas. He likes Moore, and judging by his sig, he likes Tupac. I don't think you guys realize that this is how the rest of the world feels about our government. They hate them. I give props to the kid for having balls. -Pat

Yeh, that site looks unbiased. :rolleyes:

http://www.twincities.com/mld/twincities/news/8870479.htm?1c


same story, is this website biased too

Michael Moore is not attacked because he doesnt support Bush. He is attacked because he's a delusional whack job who doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about.

http://msnbc.msn.com/id/5251769/site/newsweek/


from msnbc...since they lean SO FAR to the right :rolleyes:

Yes.

are they biased now too?????


It is a story from the AP, it doesn't matter what website it is on. You just won't accept it, admit it.

Michael Moore is not attacked because he doesnt support Bush. He is attacked because he's a delusional whack job who doesnt know what the fuck hes talking about. [/b][/quote]Just wondering, RB and DMC. How many Moore books have you read and how many Moore movies have you seen? You're sounding like DJ, whose opinion on Moore is useless and ignored because he has never read or watched anything by Moore. -Pat

We've been down that road before Patrick, you are a broken record with that. I gave you 2 websites with lies from Moore's film but you refuse to accept it, anything that says Moore lies is obviously biased according to you.

are they biased now too?????


It is a story from the AP, it doesn't matter what website it is on. You just won't accept it, admit it. [/quote]I accepted it back in June when Signore posted false facts from it and I said, "Yeh Moore lied about that." However, you will not change the opinon I have for Moore. You're wasting your time. ALL politicians lie too. I don't se anyone hopping on their cajones. -Pat

Are you blind?

are they biased now too?????


It is a story from the AP, it doesn't matter what website it is on. You just won't accept it, admit it. [/quote]I accepted it back in June when Signore posted false facts from it and I said, "Yeh Moore lied about that." However, you will not change the opinon I have for Moore. You're wasting your time. ALL politicians lie too. I don't se anyone hopping on their cajones. -Pat [/b][/quote]Who said I was trying to change your opinion about Moore? All you say is that 9/11 is accurate and I showed you something that said it wasn't.

We aren't talking about politicians we are talking about Moore, don't change the subject (I figured I'd use another favorite line of yours)


4 clear instances where he lied in his film and you are STILL going to say it is accurate

Are you blind? [/b][/quote]I'm blind because you responded that you admitted he lied in a post AFTER the one I posted.

Today is the first day I've EVER heard you say that. Every other time its just "did you see it? did you see it?"

So if you knew about lies in the film since June why have you stood by it all of these months?

Because the lies in the film represent about 37-45 minutes of the film. The other 1 hour and 15 minutes are truthful and Moore has balls to talk about it. Also, people on here give their OPINION on a movie they've never seen, which is why they're ignored. -Pat

I've seen the movie so that argument can't work with me.


I find it hard to believe that a movie will have 45 minutes of lies and an hour and 15 minutes of truth........somethings telling me that just can't be right.

I've seen the movie so that argument can't work with me.


I find it hard to believe that a movie will have 45 minutes of lies and an hour and 15 minutes of truth........somethings telling me that just can't be right. [/b][/quote]I've failed to see one site criticizing the whole film.

Really? I forgot about the Inquisition, the Spanish conquest of Montezuma and his Aztecs, and a slew of other rather nasty preceedings from a country that "cares about rights."

Welcome to the boards.
:rolleyes:

Does it take more balls to sit back and make a film full of slanderous information, or attempt to send a positive message through the right channels to actually initiate change? :rolleyes:

Of course, he could be in it for the money, too.

Does it take more balls to sit back and make a film full of slanderous information, or attempt to send a positive message through the right channels to actually initiate change? :rolleyes:

Of course, he could be in it for the money, too. [/b][/quote]Hmm. Let's see: "Moore--bad for putting 'lies' into his film."
"P. Diddy and rappers-- bad for encouragine people to vote!" Isn't that positive either?

Make up your mind. :rolleyes:

Moore's in it for the money? Wow. That company that aired that Stolen Honors movie, he offered them to play Fahrenheit 9/11 for FREE. When Comcast pulled out of its' deal to show it for $9.95, he offered it to them for FREE too. -Pat

I personally take my brother's word for it. He is extremely Liberal (he even attended the same Edwards rally as you Pat) and campaigned for Kerry/Edwards throughout the year, but even he can admit that Moore is a pathetic attempt at political education. Or as my brother stated "Lying fat ass."