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Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: pizzaboy] #792886
07/30/14 10:20 AM
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Originally Posted By: pizzaboy
Originally Posted By: Bugsyvegas1930
When is Gene expected to be released?

September 2018. A long four years at his age. So time will tell.


If he has kept himself in good shape, he could have a decent run yet.

Scarfo and Amuso are already in their 80's. Madonna and a couple of other power players on the street are about that age already.


I invoke my right under the 5th amendment of the United States constitution and decline to answer the question.
Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: Moe_Tilden] #792890
07/30/14 10:26 AM
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Originally Posted By: Moe_Tilden
If he has kept himself in good shape, he could have a decent run yet.


The Italians are firmly entrenched at the top there.

The guard has changed and changed for good in that family. He might get his stripes if he wants them but I cant see him or his brother getting any more than that.


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CHUCKIE: Morgan, Let's go.
MORGAN: I'm serious Chuckie, I ain't goin'.
WILL: So don't go.
Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793162
07/31/14 08:48 AM
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Nicodemo Scarfo and John Gotti tarnished their organizations. They assumed being feared was almost as important as being respected. A lot of "mobsters" have made the same mistake; using their media spotlight to confirm their idea of success and worth.

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793163
07/31/14 08:52 AM
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It's strange somehow that Anastasia didn't have the same effect on his family as Scarfo had on his. He was no less violent, diplomacy meant nothing to him. If I was a member of the commission, I would have let him fry on the chair, paying the police to throw Abe Reles out of the window to prevent him from testifying wasn't worth it in my opinion, even from the mafia point of view.


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1) "You people want a loaf of bread and you throw the crumbs back. Well, fuck you. I ain't closing down."

2) "Get out of here, old man. Go tell Raymond to go shit in his hat. We're not giving you anything."
Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793176
07/31/14 09:40 AM
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Scarfo baceme boss in the 80s and Anastasia in the 50s before Apalachin,Valachi ecc nobody real knew LCN then,the police were more corrupt, and the media didn't give importance to the Mafia.

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793184
07/31/14 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted By: furio_from_naples
Scarfo baceme boss in the 80s and Anastasia in the 50s before Apalachin,Valachi ecc nobody real knew LCN then,the police were more corrupt, and the media didn't give importance to the Mafia.

That's it in a nutshell. Different time. Different media. Different law enforcement. If Anastasia was a contemporary of Gotti's and Scarfo's, he would have suffered the same fate.


"I got news for you. If it wasn't for the toilet, there would be no books." --- George Costanza.
Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793256
07/31/14 01:47 PM
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People I met in jail who where in the feds with gene gotti said he walked around with a big crew through the jail lol.

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793261
07/31/14 02:05 PM
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It wasn't really hard runnin a mob family in the 50s and 60s . The Feds didn't even pursue the mob like they do today or from the 80s on . There was no Rico , wiretaps and stiff sentences for drug dealing so that meant fewer rats . To me it's 50 times harder running a mob family from the 80s to the present , u can't possibly compare gambino and accardo to bosses like massino , gotti and gigante , they had it a lot tougher. Wen the Feds made a concerted effort to target the mob they were successful . Guys like persico, rastelli, corallo and Salerno were sent to prison straight away . No doubt if the Feds made the same effort in the 50s bonanno , lucchese gambino and accardo would have gone the same way

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: domwoods74] #793262
07/31/14 02:23 PM
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
No doubt if the Feds made the same effort in the 50s bonanno , lucchese gambino and accardo would have gone the same way

And someone would have ratted. Not necessarily one of those guys, mind you. But somebody would have ratted if there was modern day surveillance, and RICO was in effect, and life without parole was the norm back then.

And I agree that those guys in general were tougher and stronger willed. But one of them would have flipped. Maybe not a boss, but a couple of soldiers at the very least. And anyone who thinks differently is just being a romantic.


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Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: pizzaboy] #793263
07/31/14 02:27 PM
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Also the saftey net of the witness protection and keeping your assets instead of 23 hours a day lockdown in some shithole a million miles from your kids is quite an allure

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: domwoods74] #793265
07/31/14 02:30 PM
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Originally Posted By: domwoods74
Also the saftey net of the witness protection and keeping your assets instead of 23 hours a day lockdown in some shithole a million miles from your kids is quite an allure

Of course, Dom smile.


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Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793392
08/01/14 03:57 AM
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Ricca** not Accardo wink

Re: The mobsters that have destroyed their families [Re: furio_from_naples] #793561
08/02/14 12:28 AM
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I do not believe that Ricca or Accardo ruiened their faimiltes, they may have been pricks to some of the other families, notable those that were west of them. But they did not ruiened Chicago.


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