I never really believed the story about Desimone trying to getting it on with Hill's wife. Hill said that quite a long time after his book and the movie came out, he was probably trying to get back into interest by making some stories up. He usually told some pretty strange tales when he appeared on Howard Stern too.

Either way, I don't think Paulie gave two shits if Tommy was killed.

I agree. And coincidentally, I just touched on that fairly recently:

http://www.gangsterbb.net/threads/ubbthr...true#Post783880


I doubt he even gave one shit .

Little OT, but how did Burke get away with killing Billy Bats? Hill said the Gambinos were demanding answers. Was Vario able to smooth things over?

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Vario only told them Tommy killed Billy.

It's different in every situation. Plenty of associates reported directly to capos and sometimes even bosses. Joe Watts was still reporting to Gotti when he became boss. Burke himself was an associate who reported directly to Vario. Apples McIntosh was reporting to Carmine Persico after he became boss. I guess none of the guys killed by Burke had a personal relationship or were good enough earners to be protected by Vario.

I understand that. But they're the exception, not the rule. And that's what I was trying to point out to Simon.

He's not American, and he's new to this stuff. And he was under the impression that associates always report to a skipper. They don't.

Like you pointed out, it does happen. But it's not very common.

Of course. He was a gentlemen.

Short video on Jimmy Burke. By the way, his name was with a "u" and "e" at the end.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFovvYnzfYo&list=PLQhDH_WZbs1N0jqZ9y9naMtgUfZ3VoVbo&index=20

yes he did get the approval of vario he was also parnoid about the heist and he saw the others as disposible extras hence nomore getting done bout jimy was tying all the loose ends up

also gotti suspected burke of the batts killing for some time an frankly no one had the balls to whack jmmy burk he had a lot of power on the street an was a gr8 earner for vario crew and the next in line was tommy d he fell straight into the burgins crews hands perfectly + there was a lot of badd blood against the de simone name who wre known sqeelers